Wire for best flavor ever ? What ?

[Canadian_Vaper]

For the NI haters... I've know some people that claimed the same... then they were vaping on one of my builds.. they never noticed it, simply commented (very positively) on my flavour (I was experimenting doing mixes of my liquids with various flavours, before I started doing DIY). Telling them my coil was NI on TC and they didn't know what to say.

I just find that the whole "can taste" NI thing is more of a psychosomatic thing, at least done in exaggeration because others claim tasting something.

I went through about 7 meters of Ni200 before giving up, I tried countless builds and ended up giving the rest of the roll away to someone that likes it, after everything I found it too cool tasting...

Right now I'm running a dual coil setup 26/32 Kanthal clapton Parallel with 26g SS @0.2 ohms, nice and warm how I like it

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

I went through about 7 meters of Ni200 before giving up, I tried countless builds and ended up giving the rest of the roll away to someone that likes it, after everything I found it too cool tasting...

Right now I'm running a dual coil setup 26/32 Kanthal clapton Parallel with 26g SS @0.2 ohms, nice and warm how I like it

Right now just next to me, I have a 0.18 single vertical rebuild coil NI 26gauge at 4mm, running at 55W - 490F, it's a very warm vape, higher than that and it can hit the too hot for vaping levels. It would probably shock you and break everything you believe about NI, should you be able to try my vape right now.

Note that I've been using this coil for 2 weeks already with no show of wear on it yet (last coil like this lasted over a month easy)

As I stated, NI and all TC metals needs to be done just right, otherwise 9/10 you are getting hot spots, which means no heat, and possible metal taste.

Not all builds work 100% perfectly (as doing verticals is trickier), so I'll have a few that needs to be set higher once in a while, but I've also learned that how you wick will make a HUGE difference. I've taken some on my builds apart, rewicked after making sure that I adjusted the coil's spacing and such just to be sure, and they worked 10x better.

I've been doing the same with my cCell cartridges rebuilds for my Melo tanks (2 and 3) and Freemax Scella (and Atlantis), also with my Lemo2(s) and with my OBS ACE RTA. (all verticals)

Regular horizontals for my RDAs with every type of metal coil now including various Claptons, with always the same results, either in W or TC modes.

As I said.. TC metal coils is just not for everyone, it simply requires a lot more patience, precision, and fine tuning. But done right... it's a huge game changer.

If you're into Kanthal, then you probably just not into TC, so it's just a different beast.

 

[zoiDman]

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I would bet you that if I'd have identical 5 mods/tanks all with various metal builds in front of "those that can tell" and do a random test, I'd honestly be extremely surprised if anyone would manage to identify them, I actually don't think they would. Someone should organize that. (I've yet to see it done anywhere)

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Not sure How Many could also? Picking Wire Types from a Blind Test like that would be something that I might have a Hard Time Doing Also.

But I Imagine that more than not people would tell you that they Like one Tank more than the Others. And when the Test is Repeated that a Statistically Significant amount of People would pick the Same Tank again.

Ya know... It Really Doesn't Matter what Anyone Else likes or Dislikes when it comes to Taste. The Only thing that Matters is what You Like.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

Not sure How Many could also? Picking Wire Types from a Blind Test like that would be something that I might have a Hard Time Doing Also.

But I Imagine that more than not people would tell you that they Like one Tank more than the Others. And when the Test is Repeated that a Statistically Significant amount of People would pick the Same Tank again.

Ya know... It Really Doesn't Matter what Anyone Else likes or Dislikes when it comes to Taste. The Only thing that Matters is what You Like.

Well, you're deviating from my proposal... I'm talking same tank, same mod, settings adjusted accordingly then screen off.

Would people be able to tell what metal's in there? I don't think so, and that's my point, and I'd love to see someone try it. I'm prepared to admit being wrong if they all managed to tell which is what, but if done right, I don't believe that I would be.

For tanks, that's another story altogether. I have 4 tanks myself (that I researched first, then settled on getting) that I switch between, and while I enjoy all of them, they have their differences, but my main go-to hasn't changed regardless of trying the newer tanks.

I do see people chasing the dragon, flipping from one tank to another and never find "true happiness" with any of them... anyways, that's just human nature, part of vaping as a hobby.

And another thing I know for a fact, LOTS of Kanthal users I know are just so used to Kanthal, that for them, going TC is just something that they can't do, adapt to, so any TC metal for them is plain "ick" for them. SS might change that should they try it and actually give it a serious try, but that's another story.

And btw, I see the same type of thing with DIY.. where some simply can't "master" doing recipes, etc. even though it's seriously simple when using recipes online, but just can't make it work, and just can't come up with something on their own either.

 

[disley]

I'm no longer using Ni because I stopped using temp control.
When I did use nickel I couldn't taste it.
I use Ti mainly atm, because it lasts ages. Has no taste, and is easy to work with.
The one dripper I have a Ti coil in is on a dna200 mod, and is using temp control.

 

[ScandaLeX]

@Imfallen_Angel it sounds like you're trying to win an argument as to why Ni200 is the bees-knees to YOU so it should be for everyone else! At the end of the day, no one cares.

People like what they like & that's all that matters. I detest the taste of Ni200 but according to you & your blind study, those who can taste it are wrong or just don't know what they're talking about.

I vape to stay off cigarettes; not to argue about what wire is best for the rest of the vaping population.

You can also keep singing the praises of TC, many including myself think it's overrated but that's ok....vaping is about individual choices.

 

[AzPlumber]

I'm no longer using Ni because I stopped using temp control.
When I did use nickel I couldn't taste it.
I use Ti mainly atm, because it lasts ages. Has no taste, and is easy to work with.
The one dripper I have a Ti coil in is on a dna200 mod, and is using temp control.

Split personality ?

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

@Imfallen_Angel it sounds like you're trying to win an argument as to why Ni200 is the bees-knees to YOU so it should be for everyone else! At the end of the day, no one cares.

People like what they like & that's all that matters. I detest the taste of Ni200 but according to you & your blind study, those who can taste it are wrong or just don't know what they're talking about.

I vape to stay off cigarettes; not to argue about what wire is best for the rest of the vaping population.

You can also keep singing the praises of TC, many including myself think it's overrated but that's ok....vaping is about individual choices.

Of course, you being on the hater's side then "I" must be trying to prove something. I'm simply stating observation and did not make it personal, something that you just did.

Take a minute and go re-read my posts... if all you saw was me defending NI and TC, then you completely missed 90% of everything I said.

If anything, I just hear the same repeated "rants" over NI (and TC), and I just find it old and tired.

Again.. if a a blind study was done, I'd love people like yourself to take it and see if you'd actually get it right. I seriously doubt it and I'd expect that you'd have to swallow that crow and would still argue about it.

And also again.. the ones that rant about TC and NI being overrated, etc. tend to be locked into Kanthal and nothing else.

As I stated, I use just about every type of wire there is, I just don't have a stick about them, just the pros and cons.

If I'm guilty of trying to convince anyone about anything, it's to be open about it, that you might have not managed to get it right, and to try various things...

You and others have done nothing but whine about how bad NI is, how TC is overrated, etc.

Sorry, I'd rather be open so that newbies don't get sucked into the "must hate something because others can't get it right".

So not to argue? what do you think you're doing just here then. You like Kanthal, can't go beyond it.. great, it works for you, then enjoy. But NI done right doesn't taste like anything, and TC isn't overrated, it's simply you just decided that it's not for YOU. Take that personally if you must, but that isn't my goal here.

The OP asked about wires, and I stated my information and experience with NI, TI, K, SS and didn't dis any of them.

 

[Tonkpils]

Taste aside, I've never been a fan of heating Nicole and inhaling the fumes.

 

[zoiDman]

Well, you're deviating from my proposal... I'm talking same tank, same mod, settings adjusted accordingly then screen off.

Would people be able to tell what metal's in there? I don't think so, and that's my point, and I'd love to see someone try it. I'm prepared to admit being wrong if they all managed to tell which is what, but if done right, I don't believe that I would be.

For tanks, that's another story altogether. I have 4 tanks myself (that I researched first, then settled on getting) that I switch between, and while I enjoy all of them, they have their differences, but my main go-to hasn't changed regardless of trying the newer tanks.

I do see people chasing the dragon, flipping from one tank to another and never find "true happiness" with any of them... anyways, that's just human nature, part of vaping as a hobby.

And another thing I know for a fact, LOTS of Kanthal users I know are just so used to Kanthal, that for them, going TC is just something that they can't do, adapt to, so any TC metal for them is plain "ick" for them. SS might change that should they try it and actually give it a serious try, but that's another story.

And btw, I see the same type of thing with DIY.. where some simply can't "master" doing recipes, etc. even though it's seriously simple when using recipes online, but just can't make it work, and just can't come up with something on their own either.

I think you should Make It your mission in Life to do such a Blind Taste Test. And should Do it for as Many people as possible.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

I think you should Make It your mission in Life to do such a Blind Taste Test. And should Do it for as Many people as possible.

"Mission in life"... nice...

If I had the money and such to do it, I'd do it.. but regrettably, I have other priorities in life such as fighting cancer and dealing with my family's other health issues.

But to be honest, even if I'd have 100s of people do the test and prove what I'm saying... I'd bet that you'd still refuse to believe it anyways. Heck you could be one of them and you'd still argue.

So please, pat yourself on the back there.

I'm done.. I came to dismiss the usual rants and prevent prejudgements, but I see that you have nothing better to do than turn this into something personal.

 

[DaveP]

I'm a long time Kanthal vaper. I like SS316L as much as anything I've vaped. Titanium is fragile. If it glows on a dry wick hit it becomes dull and lifeless. Nichrome is fine, but SS and Kanthal are my go to wires.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Ok, I think I got it....because Ni200 does nothing for me & others, we're haters!
You sound ridiculous!

Maybe you should go reread your own post cause 90% of what you said was defending Ni & TC.

If anything, I just hear the same repeated "rants" over NI (and TC), and I just find it old and tired.

And you think you're the only one whose used every type of wire?

If I'm guilty of trying to convince anyone about anything, it's to be open about it, that you might have not managed to get it right, and to try various things...

While missing the fact that many of us DID get it right & don't like it. It's really just that simple.

And not once did I say I like kanthal & cant go beyond it (those are your words interjected to make a point).
I said I detest Ni200 & that's what I meant.

 

[MMW]

Less filling/tastes great.

Was at my vape shop last night when suddenly PAPERCLIPS!!

 

[zoiDman]

"Mission in life"... nice...

If I had the money and such to do it, I'd do it.. but regrettably, I have other priorities in life such as fighting cancer and dealing with my family's other health issues.

But to be honest, even if I'd have 100s of people do the test and prove what I'm saying... I'd bet that you'd still refuse to believe it anyways. Heck you could be one of them and you'd still argue.

So please, pat yourself on the back there.

I'm done.. I came to dismiss the usual rants and prevent prejudgements, but I see that you have nothing better to do than turn this into something personal.

I think what you are Unwilling to Recognize, and why you are getting so Bent, is it just Doesn't Matter to Me what anyone else Likes or Can/Can Not Taste.

I use what I like Best. And for Me that is NiChrome 80.

If someone Likes Ni200, Great. If someone Can't Taste the Difference between Two Wire Alloys, that's Great Also. And if someone Doesn't Like NiChrome 80, hey what's Wrong with that? Nothing. None of it Really Matters or is Important to Me.

Because None of that Effects Me. Or Changes the way my e-Liquids Taste.

 

[zoiDman]

Less filling/tastes great.

Was at my vape shop last night when suddenly PAPERCLIPS!!

I Can't tell the Difference in Taste between Paper Clips and Bailing Wire.

And I think if you put them in 2 Identical Tanks, with the Same e-Liquid, that No One Else can either.

 

[MMW]

The heat ramp up on your batteries is almost instantaneous. Plus you get that smooth tin throat hit.

Just trying to keep it light folks. Don't use paperclips.

 

[OhTheAgony]

Ive got stainless in the mail. I hear nichome and titanium are hard to re wick and clean and dont last very long. I want flavor as well but I don't want to build a coil every time i need to re wick.

As it happens I just put a new titanium coil in my Bachelor Nano the other day.

The old one was similar to this one and lasted 2 months and 3 weeks without dry-burning it. I don't dry burn ti but some people carefully pulse it at a very low wattage to clean. I could probably have made it last much longer if I wanted to but had some new wire to try, so..

I just clean mine every two weeks or so with hot running water and a tooth-brush when I feel it is time to re-wick it. If it was a coil made out of a single strand it would have gunked up less and it would need less cleaning/re-wicking and it probably would have lasted longer too.

Twisted wire gives great flavor by the way, it is all I use at the moment.

edit: I just wanted to add that titanium is the only wire I have enough experience with to comment on, so I can't actually recommend one metal over the other.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

I think what you are Unwilling to Recognize, and why you are getting so Bent, is it just Doesn't Matter to Me what anyone else Likes or Can/Can Not Taste.

I use what I like Best. And for Me that is NiChrome 80.

If someone Likes Ni200, Great. If someone Can't Taste the Difference between Two Wire Alloys, that's Great Also. And if someone Doesn't Like NiChrome 80, hey what's Wrong with that? Nothing. None of it Really Matters or is Important to Me.

Because None of that Effects Me. Or Changes the way my e-Liquids Taste.

Well it most certainly does, as you needed to keep this going. We get it, you don't like NI and TC, being hell bent about it to convince others to hate it too is simply wrong.

What you've done is called projection.

All I've stated is that all wires can work just fine for anyone should it be done right. You can have your personal point of view that you hate NI and TC, but it doesn't change that there's plenty of people that do enjoy it quite fine, and I refuse to tell a newbie or other that there's anything wrong about something (when there isn't) and they should try it so to make their own mind.

 

[satchvai]

To the OP, as you can see, the answer to the question you posed is very subjective. I'd suggest buying .26 gauge of each wire type in 10ft rolls and do some experiments to determine what you think is best. My personal favorite is fused Clapton Kanthal wicked with Rayon.