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Um, it's REALLY not that expensive... but I guess it's all a matter of perspective.
Um, it's REALLY not that expensive... but I guess it's all a matter of perspective.
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I mean you can get a bad clone or a damaged product with ANYTHING. My friend has had his for a little over a year and actually sold his provari and kept his lavatube.
not in the long run, but if you can, and you can, get a similar product in durability and quality for cheaper then why not??
List please?
(This should be interesting...)
Also what qualifications define "quality" to you?
Feature set? Bells & whistles (some of which may never be used)?
Quality of the materials and components in the variable mod determine the durability & reliability of the device? Ability to survive an accidental drop on the pavement or fall into a pud puddle? Form factor play a role in choice? (Some people detest a box mod.)
And then there is the reliability of the manufacturer after the point of sale? If something stops working, how easy is it to have the manufacturer fix it? Not everyone is handy to do their own repairs. This is rarely considered when people research a new mod, but its important for the life expectancy of the mod. If a broken or nonfunctioning mod can't be fixed, it becomes an expensive paper weight.
I've never owned a Provari, but I know this ^^^ is correct Baditude. I have two Lavatubes. I bought the first new when I was just starting to experiment with mods in 2012 and I was pretty easy on it. First the bottom plate fell off so I glued it back on. Then the 510 connector came loose so I glued that back on. Then the 510 threads became worn so I glued on a 510 - 510 adapter. Then the top cap fell off so I glued that back on. It still works, but it looks like it's been through WW3 and weighs about three pounds because of all the epoxy on it
. If I was not so handy it would have bit the dust after a couple of months.I bought the second one used and pretty cheap in a package deal from the classifieds. That one is in better shape now, but it also has some epoxy on it. After that I moved on to mech mods. They are generally a lot tougher if you buy the right ones.
I don't know about the latest mods like the MVP but IMO all the China regulated mods are basically disposable devices. They work well until they develop a problem and then if you can't fix them yourself they're toast. If you're lucky one can last a couple of years. If you're not lucky one can bite the bullet in a month.
If I had not gone to mechanicals a year ago I would have bought a Provari or three because I was fed up with the failure rate of the Chinese regulated mods and the fact that you can't send them in for service. $170 for a mod might seem expensive, but if your $50 - $100 mods only last you six months it doesn't take long for the more expensive one to become a much better bargain.
And for anyone who thinks $170 is a ridiculous amount to price a good mod with a good warranty at, try designing one yourself, work out the issues and logistics and have a few hundred built for you in North America where you're sure of the quality you're getting. Please report back to us after that exercise and let us know how it went
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Guess I'm doing it wrong.
Lavatube lasted 6 months
Prothingy still going after almost 2 years.?
I don't like the VTR; it's a box mod, and it's much much heavier than the Provari (my mom has a VTR). It feels awkward in my hand and the weight is a dealbreaker for me. Just another example that what works for one person might not work for another - but some people have a hard time understanding that.
i mean saving half my money is more important than weight or looks, but i can see how it can be too heavy
No. Even in the best mod factories there are flaws. Even if they are 99.5% perfect, .5% of them will be flawed. You could have gotten unlucky and IMO you can fix almost any mod, regulated or not, with enough practice and tinkering. And the only mod I've had that actually went bad to the point of not being able to fix it was a vamo. Neither one of the two i had lasted more than 6 months
I've never owned a Provari, but I know this ^^^ is correct Baditude. I have two Lavatubes. I bought the first new when I was just starting to experiment with mods in 2012 and I was pretty easy on it. First the bottom plate fell off so I glued it back on. Then the 510 connector came loose so I glued that back on. Then the 510 threads became worn so I glued on a 510 - 510 adapter. Then the top cap fell off so I glued that back on. It still works, but it looks like it's been through WW3 and weighs about three pounds because of all the epoxy on it
I bought the second one used and pretty cheap in a package deal from the classifieds. That one is in better shape now, but it also has some epoxy on it. After that I moved on to mech mods. They are generally a lot tougher if you buy the right ones.
I don't know about the latest mods like the MVP but IMO all the China regulated mods are basically disposable devices. They work well until they develop a problem and then if you can't fix them yourself they're toast. If you're lucky one can last a couple of years. If you're not lucky one can bite the bullet in a month.
If I had not gone to mechanicals a year ago I would have bought a Provari or three because I was fed up with the failure rate of the Chinese regulated mods and the fact that you can't send them in for service. $170 for a mod might seem expensive, but if your $50 - $100 mods only last you six months it doesn't take long for the more expensive one to become a much better bargain.
And for anyone who thinks $170 is a ridiculous amount to price a good mod with a good warranty at, try designing one yourself, work out the issues and logistics and have a few hundred built for you in North America where you're sure of the quality you're getting. Please report back to us after that exercise and let us know how it went
Depends on the manufactuer. Every innokin product I've used has been quality.
How can you save money buying multiple, non serviceable devices?
I'm not able to comment on the VTR and its durability, seems like a decent unit, but what happens when it stops working? Can it be sent in for repair?
I have been through 6 "throwaway" devices in the 2 years I have started all this, and spent more on those, than the one Provari.
True, but I don't want to tinker and fix something that should just work and be built right from the start.
So I got a provari. Problem solved.
How so? I've had no problems or glitches in any way since I've owned it. I have literally run it over with a car. Thing is a tank and the extra wattage is a plus. The only thing i wish was better was the ohm meter. It can be around .1-.2 off, but thats the ONLY flaw ive found
Oh and it can go down to .7 ohm. Do that on your precious provari
The VTR is a tank but again the build quality isn't in the same category. I like my VTR BTW.
Like I said I don't own a Provari but if I did the .7 ohm thing wouldn't be a issue as I vape in the 1.5 - 1.8 ohm range.
If a Provari dysfunctions within the first year under warranty (happens, but highly unlikely), you can have it fixed for free with free shipping and have it back in a few days time. After warranty, you can still get it fixed for very reasonable fees and regular shipping for life. Try that with your VTR and see how far you get.
Just browsing this forum I see too many mods which came from China (including Innokin) which fail within a couple of months time. What option do those owners have but to buy another cheap mod? Or they can bite the bullet and spring for a Provari. Problem solved.
I don't do sub-ohm even with my Silver Bullet mech, so I don't need a mod to fire 0.8 ohm. My Provari fires a 1.1 ohm microcoil in my Kayfun and produces a wonderful vape.
I don't like nor want to tinker with my mods, I just want them to vape when I need them to. I just expect them to work.
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In my 5 months of vaping, I have vaped a Provari with a Taifun GT. The vape was GREAT!! I returned the unit back to my friend after about a week and was hunting for one. Not even close in my price range. Then he had me try the MVP2 with the same tank. After about a week, I felt the experience was about the same. Now I may not be experienced enough to suggest anything worth hearing, but for the price of the MVP2 I seemed to believe that the TRINITY was spot on to a Provari....minus about $150.
Just my opinion...and that does not mean that if I had the option to buy a Provari at the price of an MVP2, I would jump on it.
TRINITY = Flavor/Throat/Vape
Just my opinion...and that does not mean that if I had the option to buy a Provari at the price of an MVP2, I would jump on it.
TRINITY = Flavor/Throat/Vape
Zphinx, if you are still staying the course here, congrats.
As far as 'is the P worth the extra $$$' my experience is - yes.
When you start vaping, there are too many factors that can go wrong - wicks/toppers/mods/liquids - confusion rules, OK
If you can remove one of those factors, life becomes a whole lot easier. That is what the Provari has accomplished for me.
As a 55yr smoker who had been through all the quit methods (except Chantix/Champix) without success over
a period of about 15yrs I lurked on ECF before starting vaping July22/'13 and when I found a couple of eGo batteries
and carto-tanks were working - I ordered a Provari and finally quit Aug24/'13. My Provari has proved itself dependable.
It's a bit fussy though, I have to change the battery once a day.....
I was so pleased with it that I ordered a second for my 6mth vaping anniversary - just as good, and bear in mind that
I have to factor in a 47USD international shipping charge each time, and I still think I am getting value for money and
expect this to continue for a good while yet.
I wish you success with whatever you choose if it keeps you off the poisoned ones.
OT, dice57, don't know if it's tomorrow yet where you are but if it is - CONGRATS ON YOUR 1YR ANNIVERSARY !!!!!!!
As far as 'is the P worth the extra $$$' my experience is - yes.
When you start vaping, there are too many factors that can go wrong - wicks/toppers/mods/liquids - confusion rules, OK
If you can remove one of those factors, life becomes a whole lot easier. That is what the Provari has accomplished for me.
As a 55yr smoker who had been through all the quit methods (except Chantix/Champix) without success over
a period of about 15yrs I lurked on ECF before starting vaping July22/'13 and when I found a couple of eGo batteries
and carto-tanks were working - I ordered a Provari and finally quit Aug24/'13. My Provari has proved itself dependable.
It's a bit fussy though, I have to change the battery once a day.....
I was so pleased with it that I ordered a second for my 6mth vaping anniversary - just as good, and bear in mind that
I have to factor in a 47USD international shipping charge each time, and I still think I am getting value for money and
expect this to continue for a good while yet.
I wish you success with whatever you choose if it keeps you off the poisoned ones.
OT, dice57, don't know if it's tomorrow yet where you are but if it is - CONGRATS ON YOUR 1YR ANNIVERSARY !!!!!!!
It took me a long time to get a Provari. I'd have saved a lot of money if I'd gotten it sooner.
Right now, I'm very happy with the one I want. I'm watching to try and get a used one to keep as a backup. (Or possibly a mini, which gives me backup options plus the mini may be more convenient when I go out dancing.)
Right now, I'm very happy with the one I want. I'm watching to try and get a used one to keep as a backup. (Or possibly a mini, which gives me backup options plus the mini may be more convenient when I go out dancing.)
How intriguing. How much better is their step down regulation, by the way?
I think Provari is for people who just like to relax and vape. They know that they are not really ever going to get into cloud chasing competitions and other things. Provari is quality and their customer service and warranty can't be beat. Think how much you were spending on cartons. The Porvari isn't really that expensive and it last. I like to play around with other mods, but I'm to the point I really am settled in to my vaping habits. I just want a good vape throughout the day. I ordered my 3rd Provari yesterday and think for a long time, I will just spend my time learning to coil until something comes along that interest me, but so far I am just going to take it easy for awhile and enjoy what I have and know it will be here for as long as I am vaping. I guess the vape mail won't be as frequent.
I spent too much money trying to find the "it" mod for me at the cheapest price. I wish I had bought the Provari sooner and actually save money because the Provari is "it" for me. One day there might be something else that changes my mind. I did the same thing with tanks and clearomizers. Lots of money down the drain until I discovered the Kayfun. Vaping Heaven is a Provari, Kayfun and some good juice. Life is good. I do love seeing pics of the cloud chasers, but I know it's not for me. I have a couple of mechs sitting here, that wasn't for me either. It was fun experimenting though. Time to save money and enjoy what I have.
I spent too much money trying to find the "it" mod for me at the cheapest price. I wish I had bought the Provari sooner and actually save money because the Provari is "it" for me. One day there might be something else that changes my mind. I did the same thing with tanks and clearomizers. Lots of money down the drain until I discovered the Kayfun. Vaping Heaven is a Provari, Kayfun and some good juice. Life is good. I do love seeing pics of the cloud chasers, but I know it's not for me. I have a couple of mechs sitting here, that wasn't for me either. It was fun experimenting though. Time to save money and enjoy what I have.
This Provari vs ___________ crap has to STOP!
Discussion of pros and cons of one mod or another is one thing, but I've had enough of the arguing about it.
Everyone has different tastes, preferences, perspectives, and priorities. That does not mean one is better than another or one person is better than another because they have a particular mod.
Let's grow up and discuss it rationally please, and treat each other with more respect! Any more crap in here will result in further action.
In case anyone needs a reminder of how we expect members to treat each other: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-forum-rules/51178-forum-rules.html
Besides, we have much more important things to discuss & worry about right now: FDA Regulations
Discussion of pros and cons of one mod or another is one thing, but I've had enough of the arguing about it.
Everyone has different tastes, preferences, perspectives, and priorities. That does not mean one is better than another or one person is better than another because they have a particular mod.
Let's grow up and discuss it rationally please, and treat each other with more respect! Any more crap in here will result in further action.
In case anyone needs a reminder of how we expect members to treat each other: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-forum-rules/51178-forum-rules.html
Besides, we have much more important things to discuss & worry about right now: FDA Regulations
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