Wrapped carto in tank

[r77r7r]

So, anyone else use a wrapped carto in their tank? I had bought 50 wrapped before I bought my carto tank, and even tho my cartos last very long, I didn't like the unwrapping part. I sharpened the tip on my saddle valve and was practicing on an unwrapped and it went thru my carto so easy I decided to keep it and threw it in the tank and have 3 wks on it now.

So who came up with the idea that we needed SS? I know some folks were worried about the adhesive getting into their juice/lungs, but has anyone really saw the carto unwrap and fall apart? If I can get 3 wks out of one, the folks that change theirs every few days shouldn't have too much to worry about.

It even looks nice, mine has the VK (vaporkings) logo in white, and on a black ego is quite stealthy. I sharpened the tip on the saddlevalve with a nail file, and it goes thru like butter. Can't hardly even see the hole with the wrapper on it and no big dent.

 

[Beans]

Wraped cartos simply don't work on the type of tank I have. It's washers are much too small to allow the Carto to slip in. I use an M1A1, it's a fine tank though. But stripping those darn cartos are a huge PITA.

PS....Filing the saddle valve is a great idea! Thanks for the tip.

 

[Reveen]

So, anyone else use a wrapped carto in their tank? I had bought 50 wrapped before I bought my carto tank, and even tho my cartos last very long, I didn't like the unwrapping part. I sharpened the tip on my saddle valve and was practicing on an unwrapped and it went thru my carto so easy I decided to keep it and threw it in the tank and have 3 wks on it now.

So who came up with the idea that we needed SS? I know some folks were worried about the adhesive getting into their juice/lungs, but has anyone really saw the carto unwrap and fall apart? If I can get 3 wks out of one, the folks that change theirs every few days shouldn't have too much to worry about.

It even looks nice, mine has the VK (vaporkings) logo in white, and on a black ego is quite stealthy. I sharpened the tip on the saddlevalve with a nail file, and it goes thru like butter. Can't hardly even see the hole with the wrapper on it and no big dent.

I haven't ever purchased wrapped cartos, but a friend gave me one and last night I decided to take the wrapping and adhesive off. I was surprised at how much adhesive was actually on there. Much more than I had assumed. I would be concerned of the adhesive leeching into the juice and essentially inhaling vaporized unknown chemicals from the adhesive. It can't be good for you.

 

[r77r7r]

I haven't ever purchased wrapped cartos, but a friend gave me one and last night I decided to take the wrapping and adhesive off. I was surprised at how much adhesive was actually on there. Much more than I had assumed. I would be concerned of the adhesive leeching into the juice and essentially inhaling vaporized unknown chemicals from the adhesive. It can't be good for you.

See, that's the thing-the adhesive and the label is really on there good, it doesn't look like PG or VG will dissolve it at all.
So, it looks to be just a possible unfounded fear. I'm just saying that if I have 3 wks on mine and it looks brand new, I don't think a person that gets 3 days out of a carto has much to worry about.

I'm just wondering if this SS carto thing is based on fact or fear. If the adhesive cannot be actually dissolved by ejuice, than whatever would work loose would just be caught in the fiberfill, like a filter, never making it to the coil.

So- fact or hearsay??

 

[Honkey Kong]

Slightly interested in this question as well. I have roughly 10 Boxes of black wrapped Cartos that I bought before deciding on an M1A1 Buzz Tank. They are not that bad to unwrap, but the adhesive truly is a PITA to remove from the unwrapped Carto.

 

[r77r7r]

That's what I mean, if it came off with PG or VG, someone would've said to soak it in either to remove. Not happening. You kinda need a wire brush or chemical- neither being what I vape.

Maybe alcohol based flavors, or cinnamon, or citric acid? I was around when carto tanks came out and I don't remember any discussions based on fact.

Funny, alot of us put unprotected battery units in our mouths ( after years of toxic cig smoke ) and worry about adhesive residue.

 

[forks]

Though I'm not intimately familiar with the issue, as in I have not read any studies, nor do I know specifically what adhesives the almost definitely Chinese factory uses on the cartomizers in question, and though I am also a "newbie" to the e-cig scene, I will give my two cents.

For one, there are no real enforced regulations on what sort of toxic substances can be used in such adhesives. There has been some effort to encourage the reduction of toxins shipped to the US market from China, the glue is simply not intended for direct contact with humans at all, and completely unregulated. Many glues are highly toxic.

Secondly, there is no real way of knowing without laboratory tests what is going on when this unknown glue comes in contact with PG or VG. It may not dissolve the adhesive or make it become unstable, but as we have seen recently with some plastic bottles, this does not mean nasty chems aren't leaching out into your juice.

But as a cursory internet search doesn't reveal any studies involving this situation, I'd say that the "trend" of using stainless steel for immersion in juice tanks is based on fear. Reasonable fear.

Probably still better for you than analogs though.

 

[r77r7r]

Reasonable fear, huh? I think you made that up,lol. Is that the same as anxiety?

 

[forks]

I doubt that's Elmer's they are using.
Do a quick search on your favorite search engine for "toxic chinese glue."
The thousands of results are the "reasons" in the "reasonable."
It's up to you though, lol... just trying to help you make a more informed decision.

 

[PaulB]

The most securely wrapped cartos I've encountered are the Smokeless Image Volts (which you can now get wrapper-less, but I had just stocked up before those came out). Since I got my first tanks, I've gotten good at removing the wrappers whole. The key is denatured alcohol (not isopropyl--it seems to make a difference). Wipe some on the seam, wait a bit then start peeling with the tips of your thumbs (You want to push the label off, not scratch it off.), periodically wiping on more alcohol at the leading edge. The goal is to get both layers of wrapper off without a trace of glue on the stainless. Whatever glue that is, it's definitely alcohol soluble.

 

[r77r7r]

UPDATE--Well, my wrapped test carto lasted about a month now and took it out and its basically the same. It's definitely not paper, hasn't shown any wear at all or wanting to unwrap. I'd say the glue stayed put.

 

[Karla Lyle]

Slightly interested in this question as well. I have roughly 10 Boxes of black wrapped Cartos that I bought before deciding on an M1A1 Buzz Tank. They are not that bad to unwrap, but the adhesive truly is a PITA to remove from the unwrapped Carto.

Me too. I have black wrapped Boge's and was wondering the same thing. Someone said put them in the freezer to make the wrapper come off easier but I found the Boge wrapper came off pretty easily but I was wondering why I had to take them off at all. I guess the chemicals in the adhesive could be bad for you.

 

[bivie]

Does anyone have any new ideas about this? It seems if they stay in place as well
as they did for r7, they can't be too risky. Yay? Nay?

 

[zapped]

I have a wrapped carto in my Provari thats I've been using for 3 weeks from Hoosier vapes. No sign at all of coming off and Im not noticed anything untoward in regards to taste., even using a juice thats known to crack plastic tanks.

 

[bivie]

Thanks for the answer. Glad you have a Provari.