WTF happened to this spring?

[arkador]

Got my brand new Roughstack today.

Charged the battery... attached a new cartomizer, pressed the button, and nothing happened...

Removed the switch, and this is what I found... the spring looks like it has green plastic melted to it.... Confirmed a good carto, it works on my eGo battery.

Support ticket opened with madvapes...

 

[six]

The green plastic is the straw they use for an insulator to keep the spring from shorting (which it obviously did anyway) at the 510 connector. That's actually the part that makes the switch user serviceable with no soldering.

It's a bummer you weren't able to use your RS right out of the mail, but the good news is that madvapes customer service is the best and they'll have you sorted out in no time.

 

[hairball]

That stinks but I'm sure they will get you fixed up in no time.

 

[arkador]

That stinks but I'm sure they will get you fixed up in no time.

I have no doubt about that. Only disappointment is that it appears that it shipped with a blown spring, I would have gotten a slight whiff of burning wire and melting plastic if it had happened when I connected it.
I repaired it using a soldering iron, a spring from a ballpoint pen, and a 1/2inch piece of a narrow diameter straw, but it is not to the original standard.

 

[BGabe]

I just received a used RS v1 from the swaps forum. I had the same issue except that there was no straw to protect it. The spring slipped off of the connector and shorted out right on the inside of the head cap. So, I removed the whole spring idea together and soldered a small piece of wire from the circuit board to the center post of the connector and voila! The RS works like a charm now... although... I now can't replace the switch without a slight mod again, but I decided that when this gives up, I'll just buy a new one from MV.

 

[BGabe]

From what I've read, MadVapes tests all units before shipping.. Probably worked fine out the door, but did not realize that by doing so, they destroyed the spring! It happens I'm sure, but they would have felt the unit become VERY warm and I'm sure they should have smelled the plastic as well.

 

[arkador]

I was fortunate to have straws that were the perfect size. fast food straws are too large, and capri sun straws are too small. The one I found slides on, and locks into place because of the perfect fit.

Beause I couldn't find my wick to remove the solder from the original spring... and the pen spring is longer (leaving no nice coil at the end) the replacement spring I added is soldered directly to the remaining spring on the button module.

I must say, I like it so far. It is more comfortable in my hand than I felt the eGo battery was, the button is in a better position than the eGo, and using a 2.5ohm carto, if I want to take an XL hit, I can, because there is no 8sec time limit (since the 2.5s don't get too hot.

My next order will include a v2 510 shorty extender. I read people use these alot just to protect the threads on the mod itself.

Also want to try some 1.8ohm dual coil cartamizers (which need the extender anyways.)

So far, I am very satisfied with my Roughstack, even after having to break out the soldering iron, and destroy a ball point pen.

 

[arkador]

Within a few hours of the first business day of me opening the ticket, I got a satisfactory response.
I offered that I needed to place another order, and they could include a replacement with that package, and save them seperate shipping, and was told no problem. So, replacement and some dual coil cartos should be on their way soon.

I ended up ordering the Madvapes Dial coil stainless cartos, despite no reviews on the item, I am assuming it is the same as the black or clear versions internally. as well as a 510 shorty extender, so that I won't have to be constantly screwing and unscrewing directly from the 510 connecter on my roughstack.

Edit: just wrote a review on this puppy. If anything, my switch issue improved my overall opinion.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...204082-love-first-use-maxi-roughstack-v2.html

 

[mwa102464]

Within a few hours of the first business day of me opening the ticket, I got a satisfactory response.
I offered that I needed to place another order, and they could include a replacement with that package, and save them seperate shipping, and was told no problem. So, replacement and some dual coil cartos should be on their way soon.

I ended up ordering the Madvapes Dial coil stainless cartos, despite no reviews on the item, I am assuming it is the same as the black or clear versions internally. as well as a 510 shorty extender, so that I won't have to be constantly screwing and unscrewing directly from the 510 connecter on my roughstack.

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[hoogie76]

Glad that you got the rs working arkador but bummer that you had to fiddle with it at all. Should have worked right otta the box

Thanks for the great review!

hoog

 

[oldsoldier]

Glad that you got the rs working arkador but bummer that you had to fiddle with it at all. Should have worked right otta the box

Thanks for the great review!

hoog

I experienced a similar problem with my Maxi Roughstack v2 recently. The spring has over time and use melted two holes in the plastic straw isolator. After removing the switch assembly and cleaning the melted plastic off the spring I was able to carefully reinstall the switch and return my roughstack to service.

I would suggest that any roughstack users that troubleshoot a "dead" roughstack that shows a huge voltage drop at the connector carefully remove the switch and check the plastic straw. Cleaning up the spring and very carefully reinstalling the switch may return your roughstack to service. I still need to look around for a replacement straw to use as an isolator, but I'm thinking that this is going to be a recurring issue for 6v vaping.

I'm not condemning the roughstack or madvapes in any way, Im sure that vaping at 6.4V + and my particular vaping style are the root causes of the issue in my case.

 

[arkador]

noone is able to produce the same item over and over again without a small failure rate. It was easy to fix it, and I should have my factory replacement part in a couple days (tracking number recieved )

Aside from that, I am VERY happy with my roughstack!

Glad that you got the rs working arkador but bummer that you had to fiddle with it at all. Should have worked right otta the box

Thanks for the great review!

hoog

 

[arkador]

2 days later, the replacement switch died, simply reads as short when I actuate it. will open a new ticket in the morning. Guess I will be taking my eGo batteries with me on my vacation rather than the roughstack.

 

[oldsoldier]

2 days later, the replacement switch died, simply reads as short when I actuate it. will open a new ticket in the morning. Guess I will be taking my eGo batteries with me on my vacation rather than the roughstack.

Did you do like I described in my post? My roughstack works fine even with the holes in the isolator.

 

[arkador]

Correction. It reads as open not short.

I put the original broken unit in with the juryrigged spring and it is working. Pretty sure it is the actuator bad this time. May pull out the soldering iron again tomorrow and swap the buttons. Lost faith in reliability to take it out of town for 10 days when my ego has never failed me.

Did read your post, the straw is perfectly fine, and I am only running at 3.7v. I think it was the 1.5ohm dual coils that burned out the switch.

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[arkador]

think i resolved your unreliable spring issue, as I just ran into that problem too. used a pair of pliers to reduce the diameter of the top loop of the spring by about 33% I just tore this thing apart anr put it back together 3 more times, and that seems to have been the reason this time.

 

[oldsoldier]

think i resolved your unreliable spring issue, as I just ran into that problem too. used a pair of pliers to reduce the diameter of the top loop of the spring by about 33% I just tore this thing apart anr put it back together 3 more times, and that seems to have been the reason this time.

After my spring meted a THIRD hole in the isolater I stretched and reduced the spring diameter (took off about 2.5 coils in the process). I think a slight redesign is in order. Perhaps a different material for the isolater or more careful profiling of the spring would solve this problem.

I suppose I should really look into some thing to replace the pretty much useless isolator in my roughstack. If it melts again half if it will probably fall off.