Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

[machinestatic]

I'm soooo happy for you! Being laid off is no fun at all. Getting a job in the same building you worked in before would be so cool. I really hope you get it.

I looked at that charging pack but didn't see a price. Do you know how much they cost? If it's much more than $20 you might be better off just to get another iTaste VV V3.

Sorry, that was my fault. I edited my post later to add that it was $19.99. But I just realized that even if this charging pack works wonders, it still means a 2 hour period where I couldn't vape. Or... I could vape with the pass-through wire dangling into a battery pack in my bag. NOT cool. haha

Still, if it works it would be nice as an emergency back-up charger.

 

[machinestatic]

You are quite a little shopper, aren't you. I would have trouble keeping up with you. Hope it works for you. I have no idea about them. So I would say today was a pretty good day for you. I am glad to hear it. Now string a few in a row!

Well here's the thing: I've been selling things on the classifieds, and returning items to vendors, if I don't like them. So like... I tried carto tanks and Protanks, didn't like them, and sold them on the classifieds. Then I bought a Vmod and didn't like it, so I sold that too. Then I used that same money to buy a Smokeless Image kit, and returned it. Then I used that same money to buy the iTaste, Evods, and battery charger. So I'm not spending as much money as it seems.

Gonna quote some more stuff from you and reply to that too:

"That would be a hoot. I am glad you got an interview. Lots of people don't even get one. What do you do if you don't mind saying, if not, it's ok." Well during my 7 and a half years at that company I did a little of everything. I was in Customer Service answering phones the first year, then I went on to Marketing, Advertising, Feature development, and then monitoring bug tickets in Engineering. But the job I have the phone interview for would be helping clients over the phone with using advertising keyword software. (And just think, my bachelor's degree was in MUSIC. ha)

"Those are supposed to be the closest thing to a tobacco flavor. From what I hear and read the WTA is the stuff that has the alkaloids that help cut your cravings. Their are several threads that go into detail on both these topics somewhere on ECF." I read that too. I'm probably going to stay away from WTA though, because it's probably healthier to vape a smaller number of the chemicals that were in cigarettes. It seems odd to me to purposely add some of them back. NET interests me though, because it's just centered around making the FLAVOR more authentic. Then again... if I tried WTA and it 100% cut out my cigarette urges, I'd keep buying it in an instant. So maybe I shouldn't knock the concept.

 

[ShariR]

Hey, machinestatic.

If you don't need the WTA I would not start using it. Why put extra chemicals and stuff in your body that you don't need. You are doing fine without it. Now the Nets is a different story. That is about the flavor. Those guys really get into it and it can be it's own little hobby above and beyond the vaping and gear.

 

[machinestatic]

Hey, machinestatic.

If you don't need the WTA I would not start using it. Why put extra chemicals and stuff in your body that you don't need. You are doing fine without it. Now the Nets is a different story. That is about the flavor. Those guys really get into it and it can be it's own little hobby above and beyond the vaping and gear.

I agree! When friends ask me what is in the juice I vape, I take pride in telling them it's only 4 ingredients. I say "it's liquid nicotine, propylene glycol which is FDA approved for some foods, vegetable glycerine, and artificial food flavorings." It's very simple and they're impressed that I know everything that's in it.

However, it would be a very different story if I said "Well, it's a bunch of FDA approved food additives... um, PLUS some 'alkaloid' thingies that were tossed in that help to make tobacco cigarettes addictive." haha, my friends would probably call me an idiot.

 

[aikanae1]

I agree! When friends ask me what is in the juice I vape, I take pride in telling them it's only 4 ingredients. I say "it's liquid nicotine, propylene glycol which is FDA approved for some foods, vegetable glycerine, and artificial food flavorings." It's very simple and they're impressed that I know everything that's in it.

However, it would be a very different story if I said "Well, it's a bunch of FDA approved food additives... um, PLUS some 'alkaloid' thingies that were tossed in that help to make tobacco cigarettes addictive." haha, my friends would probably call me an idiot.

WTA is like using the whole leaf. Only about 5% - 10% is left out making nicotine (I know that description is not entirely accurate). But I think it's a heck of a lot better than the 4,000 chemicals added to cigs. There's still no tar for example. I keep one pv loaded with it and I think it does help when the going gets rough.

 

[daleron]

I can't imagine if I had never found this thread...I would have given up the first time around. I don't even know why I'm fighting it so hard, maybe it's because I've come this far. I'm too stubborn and I want to prove to myself that I can do this, and no stupid allergy or problem is gonna stop me. Even though I didn't even plan or want to quit smoking, now it's just the whole principal of the thing. I beginning to think that that kind of attitude isn't worth it and I should just give up and try again later. I don't know...I'm sitting here vaping my WTA which isn't seeming to cause me issues at the moment, thinking about having some smokes. I just don't know what to do.

You're a lot stronger than me Alisa, that's for sure!
Here I am smoking all day and having a vape or two in between for the pleasure of it
I was gonna respond to more but the pages!
Congrat's to those two who won contest's today I don't generally play those much but Deej is a friend and it was a hoot to watch that one roll! So many guesses! LOL
Machine, you're just a hoot! You new guys have added a fresh breeze to the mix
Boy we're all over the board aren't we?
Here I am back at over a PAD, Sharie & Thay counting up the days smoke free, Alisa battling it everday, not sure about Eriesd
And Lori? I assume you're having a hard time right now? Not saying much anyway ... that's usually how I get.

Eh, today's the day for that visit to the Oral Surgeon Not suppose to have anything to eat or drink for the next 10 hours
Not eating is no sweat, but nothing to drink?!? eeeeee, that's a toughy for me! Not even water!
So I cheated, got up at 2 a.m. just so I could feed my caffine addiction Gotta have my coffee or I'll be sick as a dog all day from the withdrawal
Why he couldn't have scheduled this for in the morning I will never know!

 

[FinallyQuit]

Good morning, everyone! Dale, crossing all my fingers and toes for you at the oral surgeon today! Good luck and feel better!!

I'm going to stand over the coffeepot while it brews, gotta get motivated.

Happy Friday!!

 

[daleron]

I need to get this off my chest, hope you don't mind ... it has nothing to do with vaping.

I'm scared to death to be put to sleep. When I had my son 25 years ago it was an emergency c-section.
During the surgery I came up out of it and got loose from the restrainst and started fighting them because
I thought I was dying. (couldn't breathe) I had the bruise's and swelling's to prove it so no, I didn't imagine it.
Afterward's I ask the doctor what happened & he got all defensive & angry with me & refused to discuss it so
I know he (they) screwed up royally somewhere during the procedure Needless to say I never saw him again.
And yes, I know things have changed since then & they do things better ... doesn't change how I feel.

 

[Erised]

Boy we're all over the board aren't we?
Here I am back at over a PAD, Sharie & Thay counting up the days smoke free, Alisa battling it everday, not sure about Eriesd
And Lori? I assume you're having a hard time right now? Not saying much anyway ... that's usually how I get.

Well, I've been doing great on the no cigs .... except for -- I had one last night. I obviously have no willpower!

I was at a meeting at work yesterday, and midway through the meeting I received a text letting me know that the final approval had gone through for another job that I've been in negotiations with. So, after everyone else had left I had a meeting with my regional mgr to give my two week notice. And since I am one of only two people in the entire company that knows this person smokes -- and it had been a longgggg meeting -- we held our meeting outside.

I need to go back and reread Mr. Mann's post on guilt.

 

[daleron]

I need to go back and reread Mr. Mann's post on guilt.

Yes you do! I see no reason for feeling guilt or anything
I hope the new job is something you are looking forward to!

 

[Notorious2again]

Good morning vapers. I'm currently having a cup of coffee and vaping a butter rum juice that's thick and creamy and goooood.

Daleron - thanks for sharing that. My wife had an emergency c-section with our younger daughter and the medical staff almost killed my wife. Twice. Her heart actually stopped at one point. Everyone came away fine and healthy, so we let the issue lie, but never returned to that facility again.

Alisa - I'm sorry to hear about your struggles. I've struggled with different forms of depression over the years, and I've learned that the best thing to do is 'get outside myself'. Take a friend out to dinner, or play with your kids (if you have any). Take interest in another person's troubles and do something to help. Go volunteer to help clean up a park or feed people at a shelter. Anything to get your mind outside your mind, so to speak. Being helpful to others sure puts my own problems in perspective, and helps lessen the sting.

 

[Erised]

I need to get this off my chest, hope you don't mind ... it has nothing to do with vaping.

I'm scared to death to be put to sleep. When I had my son 25 years ago it was an emergency c-section.
During the surgery I came up out of it and got loose from the restrainst and started fighting them because
I thought I was dying. (couldn't breathe) I had the bruise's and swelling's to prove it so no, I didn't imagine it.
Afterward's I ask the doctor what happened & he got all defensive & angry with me & refused to discuss it so
I know he (they) screwed up royally somewhere during the procedure Needless to say I never saw him again.
And yes, I know things have changed since then & they do things better ... doesn't change how I feel.

Awww Dale, I don't blame you -- that is such a scary thing to go through! And I'm sure you weren't imagining it -- my Mom went through the same thing when she had cancer surgery. She could feel and hear everything, but she couldn't move enough at first to let them know, when they finally did realize they put her under deeper. She said it was terrifying. She was totally ...... though when the Dr. tried to deny that it happened -- he quit denying it though when she relayed to him the exact conversation he was having at the time!

((((((((((((Dale))))))))))) I'll be thinking about you and sending thoughts for health and serenity.

 

[daleron]

Gosh! I had no idea it was that common ... that's just awful!

Alisa, what Notorious said about thinking about other's & reaching out ... that actually works sometimes

 

[loxmythe]

Alissa Jazz gets eczema pretty bad in spots. I really had no idea what it was until I met her and I'm pretty OCD about knowing everything (when I was a kid I read the entire set of encyclopedias) so I researched the heck out of it. There's 2 things to try and both have had amazing results with hers. Calamine lotion believe it or not seriously cleared up a patch on her leg. Also lecithin. Not just taking it but open a capsule and rub it on - amazing results. Actually taking it works wonders too on various things. Since I'm taking it my Crohn's and stomach issues majorly subsided. I don't generally believe when I hear about "the amazing effects of" *insert miracle cure here* but I'm at the point (and anyone with chronic pain knows the feeling) where I'll give anything short of human sacrifice and devil worship a try and I could be swayed on the sacrifice thing maybe
Both are cheap, harmless and worth a try so why not try it?

 

[loxmythe]

Also those with inflammatory issues from auto immune diseases may be missing the wta anatabine.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatabine

 

[loxmythe]

Dale I have an idea that may work to find out if its the nicotine bothering you (although I guess if it is it may hurt) but I know myself that not knowing drives you crazy. Maybe try nicotine gum? Or Swedish Snus? I'd think if it is the nicotine that's the way to isolate it?
I'd be happy to send you a can of Swedish Snus if you want to try it.

 

[FinallyQuit]

Awesome advice Lox, thanks for posting! Sounds like Swedish Snus might be the way to go. . .

Just had my break and now I'm slogging through another Friday.

Hope you all have a better day than me!

 

[Erised]

but I'm at the point (and anyone with chronic pain knows the feeling) where I'll give anything short of human sacrifice and devil worship a try and I could be swayed on the sacrifice thing maybe
Both are cheap, harmless and worth a try so why not try it?

I have a couple of names I'd like to submit to the list if you get to feeling swayed.

 

[machinestatic]

I have a couple of names I'd like to submit to the list if you get to feeling swayed.

I nominate Daan Delen. #1, because he's the CEO of R.J. Reynolds, and #2, because who spells Daan with 2 a's?

 

[Thayamax]

Good morning everyone. No caffeine for me anymore so it takes a little longer to get up and running.

Dale, I totally understand your reasons for being nervous. I can't even imagine that happening. And no eating or drinking all day? That is torture! I'm sure all will go well for you today. {{{Dale}}}