Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

[alisa1970]

Hello y'all. I went to the doctor today and got more xanex. I don't know why, but stress / anxiety / panic? are kicking my .... to the point of producing physical problems. That's one thing that keeps me smoking and it's hard for vaping to replace. It's bad enough that I've ended up in the er with heart attack pain and symptoms. I've had tests on my heart and it's fine. So I'm stumped.

I don't feel any different otherwise. This is out of the blue sky. I don't know why this is happening anymore than I know what to do about it and I was wondering if anyone else had this experience - and other tips, understanding, ideas, empathy or sympathy or whatever. Like I said, I'm stumped and I'm not sure what I'm looking for or need or ...

I don't know if it's the same thing, but I think I'm headed towards peri-m-land. I don't suffer anxiety or at least I don't think I do, but over the last year or so around my "girlie" times I find myself waking up at night or in the morning sweating, with my body vibrating. It's the weirdest feeling. Not like shivering exactly but close. Last night it happened after an extremely frightening dream and I had to get up and walk outside. I bummed a smoke from my BF but the vibration didn't go away until morning. Although last night wasn't the right time, but I don't know if it's a detox thing or hormonal.

If you're anywhere near that time, heart palpitations are really common. I know my heart sometimes pounds so hard it feels like it's going to jump out of my chest. No pain, but if I didn't know what it was I would be very nervous.

I also have been having issues with my ribs suddenly popping out of their sockets (?) and that creates a lot of chest pain. Before I knew that's what it was, I kept feeling my pulse because it totally felt like there was something wrong with my heart. But the pulse was fine. My chiropractor has to pop my ribs back in now quite often.

 

[FinallyQuit]

Hello y'all. I went to the doctor today and got more xanex. I don't know why, but stress / anxiety / panic? are kicking my .... to the point of producing physical problems. That's one thing that keeps me smoking and it's hard for vaping to replace. It's bad enough that I've ended up in the er with heart attack pain and symptoms. I've had tests on my heart and it's fine. So I'm stumped.

I don't feel any different otherwise. This is out of the blue sky. I don't know why this is happening anymore than I know what to do about it and I was wondering if anyone else had this experience - and other tips, understanding, ideas, empathy or sympathy or whatever. Like I said, I'm stumped and I'm not sure what I'm looking for or need or ...

Wow, I'm really sorry to hear that! I have no ideas to help you but I can offer to hold your hand through it. Dale is also a very good hand-holder who has more experience than I do with the medication side of things, as I am just too stubborn to seek help at this point.

The one pertinent question in my mind is are you getting nic-sick? Overdose symptoms can really confuse you. If nothing new has come up at home/work, no unusual stressors, could the thought of NOT smoking be causing you to panic? I'm not making light, I actually grieved the loss of a really close friend [in my mind] the last time I quit, and I do get a panic-attack feeling when I try to deny myself a smoke.

Hope you get it all worked out soon.

 

[FinallyQuit]

Alisa, I totally did NOT just call you Dale again. You hit submit before I did, I swear it!!

That peri-m is a mean and hateful biotch, ain't she? I hear she can stick around for up to 15 YEARS before true-m ever pokes her ugly head up! I'm really not excited to meet either of them.

Speaking of your sister from another mister, where is she? I'm nosy and wonder if her tongue is healing at all.

 

[alisa1970]

Alisa, I totally did NOT just call you Dale again. You hit submit before I did, I swear it!!

No, I knew you weren't talking about me-I don't know much about medications...only the ones my mom takes.

That peri-m is a mean and hateful biotch, ain't she? I hear she can stick around for up to 15 YEARS before true-m ever pokes her ugly head up! I'm really not excited to meet either of them.

Speaking of your sister from another mister, where is she? I'm nosy and wonder if her tongue is healing at all.

Yeah, I'm thinking I'm kinda there. Don't quite know what to say without giving TMI, but seriously every two weeks my world is messed up one way or another. I realized the other day how much my hair has thinned when I went to put a barrette (sp?) in my hair to hold it back and the whole thing just slid all the way down the back of my head! I used to not be able to close the damn thing because my hair was so thick...and my ....! Where the hell did it go????

LOL, getting old is fun! Fun, I say! And quitting smoking? Even more fun!

Oh, Dale's been around. I think she's a daytime gal. I don't get to spend much time here until I get home from work, and by that time all the fun's over. She'll pop back here eventually--she hasn't mentioned how she's getting on, so maybe no news is good news? Let's hope...

 

[Thayamax]

I personally have met both peri-m and true-m up close and personal. We've been doing battle for around 15 years now. By the way........they've won.

Thinning hair sucks but the hot flashes are the worst! After 11 years of true-m I still have hot flashes. Thankfully they've gone down from 100 a day to 3 or 4. Luckily (?) I never had a .... to lose.

I had a stinky (literally) day at work tonight. I smoked 12 cigs in 8 hours. I'm so lucky I can smoke as much as I want at work. NOT! I'm finishing off the pack as we speak, barely vaped at all today. Tomorrow's another day. Hopefully a less smoke-filled one.

 

[alisa1970]

Hope you do better tomorrow! I'm thinking I'm pretty much back on the wagon for now. The smoke last night was part of a pattern I developed when I have nightmares in the middle of the night (happens about once every 2-3 months). I couldn't try to calm down without it.

I've been doing pretty well with the stress trigger. I've been pretty stressed at work and I only leave my desk at my normal pre-vape intervals so I'm keeping to a schedule. I'm finding that I can vape and it's taking the craving away. I was recently asked not to vape at my desk, so having the schedule for me I think is reinforcing my re-training to vape when I want to smoke.

I don't have any more cigs and I don't plan to buy any anytime soon, so my only choice is to bum ones from my BF and I don't like his (Camel Platinum--the extra-super-duper lights--wimp!) so that will likely keep me on the straight and narrow.

 

[Thayamax]

I've been rolling my own for the last 7 or 8 years. Really cheap....around $1 a pack, so I'm spending a lot more on vaping. I know part of the problem is I have my tobacco, tubes and rolling machine an arm's length away, so I can roll one, or 100, anytime I want. I don't even have to go to the store to buy a pack.

I'm still way too nervous to go to work without a pack of smokes with me, and I end up smoking at work instead of vaping. I think it's mostly out of habit, and seeing my co-workers smoking, too.

The good part is that I mostly vape at home, so I've gone down from 3+ PAD to 1+. That's a big difference, but not nearly what I'd hoped for. I'm soooo weak!

 

[daleron]

Thanks for your help! Dale, I do keep all my emails about purchases, but I lose paper receipts a LOT. Some stuff I can look at it and say where I bought it and how much it was, the rest is a mystery and should remain one. If I ever looked at all the money I've spent vaping I'd have a heart attack!!

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT! Look at the finale figures!

Hello y'all. I went to the doctor today and got more xanex. I don't know why, but stress / anxiety / panic? are kicking my .... to the point of producing physical problems. That's one thing that keeps me smoking and it's hard for vaping to replace. It's bad enough that I've ended up in the er with heart attack pain and symptoms. I've had tests on my heart and it's fine. So I'm stumped.

I don't feel any different otherwise. This is out of the blue sky. I don't know why this is happening anymore than I know what to do about it and I was wondering if anyone else had this experience - and other tips, understanding, ideas, empathy or sympathy or whatever. Like I said, I'm stumped and I'm not sure what I'm looking for or need or ...

Well you have my understanding/empathy/sympathy Xanax is some pretty cool stuff IMHO. Last year I decided I wanted off anti-depressants (thought I didn't need it any more) ... so for some weird reason my doc puts me on Prozac --- I went totally beserk!!! Had a serious reaction to that stuff and flew off the handle with a bunch of people (which is not ME BTW) Went flying back to the doc & he says & I quote "hummm, seems you've had a bad reaction to Prozac". I felt like saying "no ....!";pardon my french, like I said, I was definitly not myself! Sooooo, he puts me on Xanax to calm me down, stupid me I'm thinking this is a different type of anti-depressant so I go on my merry little way. A few weeks later I'm crying everyday again, NOW what??? Back to the doc I go, hey what's up with this? Xanax is not working??? "Oh, Xanax is not an anti-depressant" Ya' coulda told me that in the first place, I'm not a doctor you know! Any how ... he put me on another anti-depressant (which I guess I'll take the rest of my life) & I'm still on Xanax; with the two combined I've been cruising along pretty good for several months now.
Wow, sorry for the book! Anywhoo, hope it will help somebody decide what if anything you might want to do in this area

I don't know if it's the same thing, but I think I'm headed towards peri-m-land. I don't suffer anxiety or at least I don't think I do, but over the last year or so around my "girlie" times I find myself waking up at night or in the morning sweating, with my body vibrating. It's the weirdest feeling. Not like shivering exactly but close. Last night it happened after an extremely frightening dream and I had to get up and walk outside. I bummed a smoke from my BF but the vibration didn't go away until morning. Although last night wasn't the right time, but I don't know if it's a detox thing or hormonal.

If you're anywhere near that time, heart palpitations are really common. I know my heart sometimes pounds so hard it feels like it's going to jump out of my chest. No pain, but if I didn't know what it was I would be very nervous.

Yep! Sounds like you are entering that wonderful phase of life You have my deepest sympathy! I've been at it for over ten years now, finger's crossed that this will be my final year with no more of "you know what"

Wow, I'm really sorry to hear that! I have no ideas to help you but I can offer to hold your hand through it. Dale is also a very good hand-holder who has more experience than I do with the medication side of things, as I am just too stubborn to seek help at this point.
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Thanks for the kind words, I know the hand holding is kind of silly but just want people to know someone IS there & cares I wish you wouldn't be stubborn tho' if you need some help in that area, it really can make a world of difference in your life once you get it all set right

Speaking of your sister from another mister, where is she? I'm nosy and wonder if her tongue is healing at all.

Yes! I'm healing up very quickly for this kind of thing! I've even been trying to vape some the last two days, it's very harsh tho'. Burns my nose super bad, & my taste is waaaaaaaaay off I assume/hope that passes soon too!

Yeah, I'm thinking I'm kinda there. Don't quite know what to say without giving TMI, but seriously every two weeks my world is messed up one way or another. I realized the other day how much my hair has thinned when I went to put a barrette (sp?) in my hair to hold it back and the whole thing just slid all the way down the back of my head! I used to not be able to close the damn thing because my hair was so thick...and my ....! Where the hell did it go????

Oh, Dale's been around. I think she's a daytime gal. I don't get to spend much time here until I get home from work, and by that time all the fun's over. She'll pop back here eventually--she hasn't mentioned how she's getting on, so maybe no news is good news? Let's hope...

UkOh! Better get your thyroid checked if your losing a lot more hair than usual I had a nurse tell me about that & yep, I take med's for that too ... yes, getting old is the pit's but we all know what the alternitive is!8-o
As for your "...." can't help you there ... everything "goes south" with age!

I personally have met both peri-m and true-m up close and personal. We've been doing battle for around 15 years now. By the way........they've won.

Thinning hair sucks but the hot flashes are the worst! After 11 years of true-m I still have hot flashes. Thankfully they've gone down from 100 a day to 3 or 4. Luckily (?) I never had a .... to lose.

I had a stinky (literally) day at work tonight. I smoked 12 cigs in 8 hours. I'm so lucky I can smoke as much as I want at work. NOT! I'm finishing off the pack as we speak, barely vaped at all today. Tomorrow's another day. Hopefully a less smoke-filled one.

My mother informs me the hot flashes NEVER stop And yes! Today is a brand new one, "the first day of the rest of your life!"

I've been rolling my own for the last 7 or 8 years. Really cheap....around $1 a pack, so I'm spending a lot more on vaping. I know part of the problem is I have my tobacco, tubes and rolling machine an arm's length away, so I can roll one, or 100, anytime I want. I don't even have to go to the store to buy a pack.

I'm still way too nervous to go to work without a pack of smokes with me, and I end up smoking at work instead of vaping. I think it's mostly out of habit, and seeing my co-workers smoking, too.

The good part is that I mostly vape at home, so I've gone down from 3+ PAD to 1+. That's a big difference, but not nearly what I'd hoped for. I'm soooo weak!

LOL! Hide the rolling machine in an inconventant place!

8-o I hate to see what this post is gonna look like when I hit "Post Reply"

 

[FL Lori]

Hey y'all, I have been lost in the DIY threads lately. I'm getting all excited about it again, mostly because I have all the supplies sitting here from last go round. The problem I was having before is already back. I find a delicious looking recipe, I look through the tackle box, don't have what I need to make it, and then I go shopping. This place has brown sugar but is out of stock on Oba Oba, this place has Oba Oba but doesn't even carry brown sugar, and this place doesn't have either but they do have Dark Honey Tobacco. So, I'm filling carts all over the place and obsessing about how I'm going to get my hands on what I need, because I need it RIGHT NOW. I had to absolutely slap myself silly tonight! I emptied all the carts I had filled, shut down the internet, and went outside to smoke. Came back to tell you guys how stupid I feel right now.

This is a pattern with me. I recognized the pattern when I started vaping the 2nd time. I acknowledge it's power over me, and I can't blame it all on my addictive personality. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

So, I'm promising myself that I am not buying any more DIY supplies until I master a mix with the stuff I already have on hand. And, I'm not buying any cheap commercial juice so I have no choice but to make it myself. The only luxury I'm allowing myself is WTA juice and I've got a few flavors of that on hand to finish off before I order some more. I am running out of my all time favorite, though, so this will be a struggle!

Hope you are all doing well and I promise not to be absent anymore!

good good to see you fq

 

[FL Lori]

No, I knew you weren't talking about me-I don't know much about medications...only the ones my mom takes.



Yeah, I'm thinking I'm kinda there. Don't quite know what to say without giving TMI, but seriously every two weeks my world is messed up one way or another. I realized the other day how much my hair has thinned when I went to put a barrette (sp?) in my hair to hold it back and the whole thing just slid all the way down the back of my head! I used to not be able to close the damn thing because my hair was so thick...and my ....! Where the hell did it go????

LOL, getting old is fun! Fun, I say! And quitting smoking? Even more fun!

Oh, Dale's been around. I think she's a daytime gal. I don't get to spend much time here until I get home from work, and by that time all the fun's over. She'll pop back here eventually--she hasn't mentioned how she's getting on, so maybe no news is good news? Let's hope...

I spoke to Dale yesterday. She's feeling a bit beter

 

[daleron]

I spoke to Dale yesterday. She's feeling a bit beter

Yes she is A LOT better!
Oh, & yes, I'm a day time person

 

[FL Lori]

Just woke up from anesthesia. Hope my responses were coherent. hugs to all. Back to sleep I go. GN all

 

[FinallyQuit]

Hey Lori! Hope all is well with hubby and fuzzmonsters down in Florida, it must be hotter than you-know-what down there!

Today is a new day, I stayed up WAY too late last night laughing my hiney off on this forum. Woke up bright eyed and bushy tailed, though, laughter is good for the soul!

See y'all later!

 

[daleron]

Laughter is indeed good for the soul & the body!!! This little gem my daughter posted on facebook one day may give you all a chuckle; I was on ECF at the time & she was sitting on my couch.

"My moms starting to scare me...one minute its dead quite then next thing you know shes sitting there laughing...ooooo scary...lol"

 

[daleron]

Just woke up from anesthesia. Hope my responses were coherent. hugs to all. Back to sleep I go. GN all

They were Now go back to sleep!

 

[loxmythe]

I'm going to try to find Jesus today.





Literally - I took a turn too fast yesterday and my dashboard Jesus went flying. I'm not sure but he may have gone out the passenger side window. I was so busy I never got a chance to look.

 

[beebopnjazz]

I think he was ducking for cover!

I'm going to try to find Jesus today.





Literally - I took a turn too fast yesterday and my dashboard Jesus went flying. I'm not sure but he may have gone out the passenger side window. I was so busy I never got a chance to look.

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[FL Lori]

I'm going to try to find Jesus today. :


Literally - I took a turn too fast yesterday and my dashboard Jesus went flying. I'm not sure but he may have gone out the passenger side window. I was so busy I never got a chance to look.

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Thank God youre ok

 

[aikanae1]

I don't know if it's the same thing, but I think I'm headed towards peri-m-land. I don't suffer anxiety or at least I don't think I do, but over the last year or so around my "girlie" times I find myself waking up at night or in the morning sweating, with my body vibrating. It's the weirdest feeling. Not like shivering exactly but close. Last night it happened after an extremely frightening dream and I had to get up and walk outside. I bummed a smoke from my BF but the vibration didn't go away until morning. Although last night wasn't the right time, but I don't know if it's a detox thing or hormonal.

If you're anywhere near that time, heart palpitations are really common. I know my heart sometimes pounds so hard it feels like it's going to jump out of my chest. No pain, but if I didn't know what it was I would be very nervous.

I also have been having issues with my ribs suddenly popping out of their sockets (?) and that creates a lot of chest pain. Before I knew that's what it was, I kept feeling my pulse because it totally felt like there was something wrong with my heart. But the pulse was fine. My chiropractor has to pop my ribs back in now quite often.

I got super lucky with menopause. One month it was there, the next month it wasn't. That's it. No hot flashes, no other signs. That was over 5 years ago. I was using the wild yam cream for awhile but I'm not sure why other than I didn't like the fact I was aging. I feel like I missed something in a way.

I don't get heart palpitations. It's a stabbing in the chest and burns, radiates into my arm and jaw. I literally loose function of my right arm. The pain is morphine level. Then my oxygen drops. I've been scanned for a punctured lung too. I feel fine emotionally, not nervous, not anxiety. No event. I'm supposed to take xanax as a preventative, whether I think I need it or not and I can't say it's helped other than makes me feel tired and lethargic. This started with vaping. Stress is one thing I do have trouble controlling. The doctors are now telling me my asthma is stress related. There are times I can't get up a flight of stairs yet my oxygen and lung function are normal. I have no doubt smoking helps my stress level. It's just a crappy way to do it. For the past 6 months I've tried to edit out stress to the point of being dysfunctional, so that can't continue.

I know others are stress smokers. What do you do to manage that when transitioning to vaping?

 

[daleron]

Aikanae1 has me stumped
Anybody else got any suggestions for this one???