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I've been doing awful lately ... half a pack to a pack of cigs a day along with my chain vaping. Yeah, it's a LOT less than 3 packs a day, but still, I figured that I'd have this little "rebellion" out of my system by now.

Today I was determined to do better ... and I have so far -- only 2 cigs (wake up one and after dinner one) and I've got 5 left sitting in a cupboard. I have been soooooooo tempted to make a run to the store for another pack though so that I can just puff to my hearts content. So, what did I do to stop myself? I had a couple glasses of wine. :laugh: I WON'T drink and drive! Problem solved. Then I had a really good laugh -- I'm thinking that resorting to drinking so that I won't smoke is somehow wrong -- on more than one level! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to have to break down and try some WTA. Of those here that have tried it what do you think about it?

Oh that soda nose spewing thing again!! Ow ow ow!! Yeah, somehow I don't think resorting to drinking to keep yourself from smoking is going to work. When I used to drink, I'd have a cig in my hand, one smoldering in the ash tray, and be looking for my pack all at the same time!

Yes, I tried and love WTA, I really feel like it helps me avoid more cigarettes. I use it in 12mg nic, when I'm antsy from vaping my brains out it helps me walk away for a little while. I've been chided by some members that it's not the be all and end all, and for them it might not be. But it works for me. Just don't try the RY4, it's nasty, gross, disgusting! [Save some for me!]
 

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Even though this is anonymous it's embarrassing to say but I use a pacifier. I grind my front teeth when stressed and using the pacifier helps with the "wanting the cigarette" in my mouth and helps spare my teeth from the grinding pressure.

It only takes one person to start a revolution.

I have severe TMJ a pacifier is a great idea!!!!!!!!
 

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FinallyQuit, not to be rude but is it possible you could have a mood disorder? I'm bipolar and take meds to control it. Much of what you said about yelling at others when they did nothing followed by crying is exactly how I am when not on my meds. I have a failed marriage and my daughter moved away from me because I was not on meds or the correct meds. I learned the hard way I need my meds everyday. At least now I have a wonderful husband that is understanding of my disorder and as long as I keep taking my meds and do my best to stay mentally balanced he is accepting of the bipolar.

It only takes one person to start a revolution.

It is so hard to find the right combination of drugs to relieve it sometimes. I understand. I love your honesty. I am not bi-polar but you would think I were when incorrectly medicated. I do suffer from depression tho. Everything has been tried on me but I always end up back at proczac and Xanax. There were many days in the past that I would not take my medicine or cut it in half. I had a coworker that within 5 minutes would raise her eyebrow and say what happened to your medication. lol
 

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Me and SSRI's don't get along. After some research on them, I wasn't impressed with them being approved in the first place. I have taken wellbutrin for awhile as an anti-depressent (works on dopamine vs seritonin). I also take adderall which puts me to sleep. My bp is normally low too. So I definatley have some quirks.

I have extreme allergic reactions, but they are more classic shock or throat closing or rock hard chest. I've also been trying to track down something new causing reactions, including in juices. I'm not convinced it's pg yet - although I've had reactions to other things in the category. I've never heard this included as an allergic reaction, but I am leaning towards something physical.

The thing is it's unpredictable and unfortunatley, the people around me are labeling it as "drama queen adventure" or whatever. They do that with my food allergies too. I get really tired of it.

My mom had sarcoma and complained of back pain (among other things) for over 5 years. She even paid out of pocket for a physical at Mayo clinic. They repeated all the typical entry level tests and upped her anti-depressent dosage. She wasn't depressed until her lower back pain started and it was her local gp who started her on them. They didn't even try a different anti-depressent.

My father had a minor out patient surgery and like all "he-men" doesn't need pain killers. We caught my mom sneaking them. If her pain was that bad, she needed to go to the er and didn't want to because, "they never find anything wrong". The er took one back xray and discovered she was full of cancer (sarcoma). Her pain was metastic pain. I will say that metastic pain is unbearably excrutiating. It's a reason to plead for death. Of course, she was too late for any treatment by then and died six months later.

It's hard for me to put into words what I think. My sister-in-law's breast cancer was mishandled. "just wait 6 months" on a lump under 30 years old is ----- (fill in the blank). It made the difference between survivable or not. Another friend died of a treatable form of luekemia that was poorly handled. Her father had lived with the same thing for over 30 years. I now know of a proffessional medical research site that allows 2 weeks trial access - but geesh, I'd have to do nothing but comb through that for 2 weeks without sleeping. Then find a dr whose ego wasn't hurt when I presented the research. And of course, insurance with their medical alogorythms that say "that doesn't happen" - evidence and logic mean nothing in comparson. Shall I just say, "been there, done that".

I don't even have an allergist right now. I told my doctor I can barely eat anything anymore and he said "we'll deal with that later". Thx bunches. This was at a non-profit teaching hospital. The best I could find in the area. Every single person I mentioned about had different combination's of insurance including self-pay. I am so down on the quality of medical in the US that I honestly think the life span figures are falsified.

I don't want another fight. The last war with my insurance resulted in loosing all my medical records. I didn't even have a comparison mammogram. I won, but it only lasted until the next fisical year. Then I had to start all over again and I didn't.

This is unpredictable and now I'm not even sure I should go to the er or take xanax and fall asleep.

Sorry for the vent. I hate the system of medicine anymore. I could keep looking for a doctor, but I get the sense he'd label me a hypochondriac and blow me off even if I'm considered a "low user of services" (the insurance company term). Shoot - I'd like to find a doctor that even looks at medical records first. I think I paid $200 to try and recreate what I could. I guess they aren't as valuable to doctors if a patient carries them in.

Again, sorry for the rant. It feels good though.

I found a fairly good food elimination diet that severe, but it sounds like it could flush whatever allegies out. I'm dreading it.

My list of physical ails in unending. Yes I get called a phony, drama queen, bla bla. Then 1 medicine backfires and I am totally out of whack. I hear you loud and clear. I thank God my doctors knew me and tolerated me well. I had an in law that had back pain. most drs dismissed her as a drug addict. She ended up getting a cage over her spine. remained in pain for years and no one listened or believed her. Eventually she committed suicide. I am glad you are so honest Aikanae1
 

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Seriously, if you can, find a good naturopath...my mom's has absolutely done wonders for her. It takes a bit longer to get to the root cause, but it's better than what happens with an MD who I think are more like legal drug pushers now more than healers. I know what you mean about the medical profession...I don't really trust doctors as far as I can throw them.

If you can afford it and can find one you trust go for it. I fought pain management for years but I couldn't find a doctor to help me. They would exhaust every test and be unable to help
 

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I've been doing awful lately ... half a pack to a pack of cigs a day along with my chain vaping. Yeah, it's a LOT less than 3 packs a day, but still, I figured that I'd have this little "rebellion" out of my system by now.

Today I was determined to do better ... and I have so far -- only 2 cigs (wake up one and after dinner one) and I've got 5 left sitting in a cupboard. I have been soooooooo tempted to make a run to the store for another pack though so that I can just puff to my hearts content. So, what did I do to stop myself? I had a couple glasses of wine. :laugh: I WON'T drink and drive! Problem solved. Then I had a really good laugh -- I'm thinking that resorting to drinking so that I won't smoke is somehow wrong -- on more than one level! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to have to break down and try some WTA. Of those here that have tried it what do you think about it?

I have pg based wta here you are welcome to
 

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Grrrrr. I invite people to this thread all the time! People on other threads in this forum are so sarcastic and superior. I know I can't go running around slapping people, but I really want to!!

If I wanted to fight every time I posted somewhere, I would put a link to this thread in my signature!

I'm so glad we have this little island of tranquility to escape to when a good slapping just doesn't cut it! :ohmy:
 

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Grrrrr. I invite people to this thread all the time! People on other threads in this forum are so sarcastic and superior. I know I can't go running around slapping people, but I really want to!!

If I wanted to fight every time I posted somewhere, I would put a link to this thread in my signature!

I'm so glad we have this little island of tranquility to escape to when a good slapping just doesn't cut it! :ohmy:

If you ever wanna slap me FQ just do it in a pm. :)
 

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If I wanted to fight every time I posted somewhere, I would put a link to this thread in my signature!

I'd say do it! The thing I hate seeing when someone is struggling is "You have to really want it", or "You just have to STOP and not smoke any".


Well, duh!! People are expressing that they DO want it and they CAN'T stop...and they're looking for help. sheesh!!!
 

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Oh that soda nose spewing thing again!! Ow ow ow!! Yeah, somehow I don't think resorting to drinking to keep yourself from smoking is going to work. When I used to drink, I'd have a cig in my hand, one smoldering in the ash tray, and be looking for my pack all at the same time!

Yes, I tried and love WTA, I really feel like it helps me avoid more cigarettes. I use it in 12mg nic, when I'm antsy from vaping my brains out it helps me walk away for a little while. I've been chided by some members that it's not the be all and end all, and for them it might not be. But it works for me. Just don't try the RY4, it's nasty, gross, disgusting! [Save some for me!]

Whatever keeps a few cigarettes out of your mouth is a good thing. Unless of vourse it is heroine or something like that. ;)
 

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Lori, you are not condescending to a struggling vaper, so no slapping required.

The thread that has set me off this moment is in the general e-smoking forum. Honestly though, why the lecture? "You obviously don't intend to quit smoking, you can't just come here for sympathy, I can't support your statement that you can't afford to vape if you can afford to buy cigarettes. . ." ad nauseum. People with thin skin will just leave the forum altogether. Is that support?
 
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I really wish I could gift that girl my eRoll set and a little left over WTA...but I kind of need it myself... :unsure:

This!! If I had what she needed lying around I would gladly send it. I need it myself as a struggling vaper trying to quit. So frustrating! Those people who fuss about "how are you buying cigarettes" have never bought a $10 carton in their lives, and probably have no idea how taking $50 out of a very tight budget feels. Damn, where is that Zanax I was talking about earlier? :laugh: I gotta stop getting all fired up on other people's behalf!
 

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Lori, you are not condescending to a struggling vaper, so no slapping required. Honestly though, why the lecture? "You obviously don't intend to quit smoking, you can't just come here for sympathy, I can't support your statement that you can't afford to vape if you can afford to buy cigarettes. . ." ad nauseum. People with thin skin will just leave the forum altogether. Is that support?

Wow. I certainly didn't think I was lecturing. Since I orderd both the WTA and The PG WTA in the hopes that I could drip a few drops to get over the edge. When I said I smoked 22 the other day that was a really bad day. 4 or 5 is a good day. Have been trying to quit for over a year. Some days it is harder than others. I never said I cant afford to vape financially, physically I cant afford to be ill all the time. The last think I tried to do was make anyone feel less than. I was very greatful when people came to me and silently admitted that they still smoke. I am sorry you view me that way. Good night
 

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Wow. I certainly didn't think I was lecturing. Since I orderd both the WTA and The PG WTA in the hopes that I could drip a few drops to get over the edge. When I said I smoked 22 the other day that was a really bad day. 4 or 5 is a good day. Have been trying to quit for over a year. Some days it is harder than others. I never said I cant afford to vape financially, physically I cant afford to be ill all the time. The last think I tried to do was make anyone feel less than. I was very greatful when people came to me and silently admitted that they still smoke. I am sorry you view me that way. Good night

I think we are seriously misunderstanding each other. I don't think you have ever been condescending to anyone. I am in no way talking about you when I blow off. There is a thread in the "general smoking" forum that has burned me up. Wow, I'm sorry for the confusion. Please don't think that I was being offensive towards you!

This is the thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-very-frustrated-thinking-trying-patches.html
 
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Uh-oh...big misunderstanding...

I kind of read it the way Lori did, but I knew FQ couldn't mean that because there was nothing to relate it to, and I know Lori doesn't have that mindset.

Girls! Make up and be friends! :cry:

Hopefully it is already done. I sent quit a pm
 
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