Zamplebox getting destroyed on ECR v. truth comes out about their house juices

[oh u mad]

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2zu2x0/psa_the_truth_about_zample_box/

basically, it's been proven that 80% of the box contains juice that Zamplebox makes themselves.

To Tony (owner of Zamplebox)

The only reason its all out on the table now is because it had to be forced out of you. First you just had a little innocent partnership buying ejuice, then it was doing web development and product logo design, now it is clear you have/had full blown ownership of the company. You would have told the entire story off the hop if you had nothing to hide my friend. And reading your AMA and these posts I can`t help but to smell stinky, stinky fish. I think you dug your own grave on this one.

 

[Froth]

Reason #1 as to why I recently cancelled my subscription. Changed all of my billing information and personal information for my account as well, I've heard reports of numerous people having their cards charged after a full cancellation was done.

 

[Thegodmouse]

I read the ENTIRE post and comments section, and holy cow... they utterly ate him alive. That's what happens when you use shady business tactics. RIP ZB

 

[skoony]

yet another tempest in a teapot. owning in part or whole a
company that supplies products to you for resale is one of
the most common business practices out their. its pervasive
in every industry. how pervasive? well for one there are basically
three manufacturers of ketchup. Heinze,Del Monte, and Hunts.
(Red Gold may be independent) every bottle or blister pack
you see with out these names on them was in fact made by
one of these three. Sysco a major food service companies
restaurant brand 'House blend?' uses Heinze 57 as there steak
sauce and Del Monte makes the ketchup. at least this was the case
when they introduced it back in the day. people still claim they can
taste the difference when i tell them but,its the same identical product.
nothing at all was changed but the name.
as far as zamplebox using what some say is an inferior product
while others claim it was not is a different story. a bad product
is a bad product. the business practice however is no proof of
any thing wrong happening. a lot of business is done this way.

regards
mike

 

[SmoKnoMoCigZ]

i just cancelled my subscription from them because i have a boatload of juice on hand. i just can`t see letting so much juice sit in the closet while i vape new stuff. with that said i got 6 boxes of 6 bottles each and never got any "house" juice. all bottles i got were name brand liquids that i could search online and find where to reorder. these threads have been popping up here and on reddit for a while now but i think its odd that i never got any of the crappy juice myself. i guess i just got lucky.

 

[BraveNewWorld]

i just cancelled my subscription from them because i have a boatload of juice on hand. i just can`t see letting so much juice sit in the closet while i vape new stuff. with that said i got 6 boxes of 6 bottles each and never got any "house" juice. all bottles i got were name brand liquids that i could search online and find where to reorder. these threads have been popping up here and on reddit for a while now but i think its odd that i never got any of the crappy juice myself. i guess i just got lucky.

If I'm not mistaken, and if I remember correctly you posted a pic in a prior thread and I did see house brand in there.
I'll be back I'll fish through it.

 

[BraveNewWorld]

Here it is. From what I remember when I looked up your juice one was legit- mad mikes, that was it.
I researched for myself before I signed up. Decided it wasn't for me. I was sleuthing for myself not because I was out to get anyone but decided I'd let you know here today because it's only fair your informed.

 

[WillyZee]

wonder why Tony put everything in his own name? ... with his design contacts, he could have pulled this off by introducing dozens of house brands and new subscribers would have never caught on.

Sure, some people who get tired of crappy juice would cancel ... but new signups would never know

could this be what they call karma?

 

[oh u mad]

yet another tempest in a teapot. owning in part or whole a
company that supplies products to you for resale is one of
the most common business practices out their. its pervasive
in every industry. how pervasive? well for one there are basically
three manufacturers of ketchup. Heinze,Del Monte, and Hunts.
(Red Gold may be independent) every bottle or blister pack
you see with out these names on them was in fact made by
one of these three. Sysco a major food service companies
restaurant brand 'House blend?' uses Heinze 57 as there steak
sauce and Del Monte makes the ketchup. at least this was the case
when they introduced it back in the day. people still claim they can
taste the difference when i tell them but,its the same identical product.
nothing at all was changed but the name.
as far as zamplebox using what some say is an inferior product
while others claim it was not is a different story. a bad product
is a bad product. the business practice however is no proof of
any thing wrong happening. a lot of business is done this way.

regards
mike

did you read the thread at all? Tony was deceptive, end of story.

 

[Jeffro2700]

yet another tempest in a teapot. owning in part or whole a
company that supplies products to you for resale is one of
the most common business practices out their. its pervasive
in every industry. how pervasive? well for one there are basically
three manufacturers of ketchup. Heinze,Del Monte, and Hunts.
(Red Gold may be independent) every bottle or blister pack
you see with out these names on them was in fact made by
one of these three. Sysco a major food service companies
restaurant brand 'House blend?' uses Heinze 57 as there steak
sauce and Del Monte makes the ketchup. at least this was the case
when they introduced it back in the day. people still claim they can
taste the difference when i tell them but,its the same identical product.
nothing at all was changed but the name.
as far as zamplebox using what some say is an inferior product
while others claim it was not is a different story. a bad product
is a bad product. the business practice however is no proof of
any thing wrong happening. a lot of business is done this way.

regards
mike

I don't know if you read the entire thread. It's a long one. The main problem everyone has with ZB (Tony) is that he lied about his involvement. If he would have been honest, this wouldn't be such a big deal. I won't do business with a liar.

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[epiphanyx99]

I was subscribed to ZampleBox for 5 or 6 months, and most of the juices I tried once and never again. I received the Gold box but I only liked 1 to 3 out of 11 bottles each month, though I admit I am somewhat picky. However, I now use Craft Vapery and I like most of the bottles they send to me. The quality of the juice is higher and I am much happier with them.

 

[BraveNewWorld]

If it was a three named bottle amount that actually sells online and broke into the market on their own, plus three bottles of house juice made here, it would be different. At least your informed. Full disclosure. Their house juice is not worth $12 a bottle. It's a bait and switch.
Calling it grey goose when it contains Gordon's at 1/2 off is a scam. A case of beer at $40 when 23 are backwoods brewed but all labeled Sam Adams. Catch my drift. It's not ketchup.
One bottle of public juice and five house bottles is a little much. I can gamble $29 better than that online.
Full disclosure is the central issue.

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

That's some fun shadiness/drama there...lol.

The part i can't get over (minus the obv bad business ethics) is that apparently you have to "watch a video" before you unsubscribe to the service?

Anyone know anything more about that?

That just seems like craziness, and honestly i'd be pretty ...... if i had to jump through hoops to unsubscribe.

 

[SmoKnoMoCigZ]

Here it is. From what I remember when I looked up your juice one was legit- mad mikes, that was it.
I researched for myself before I signed up. Decided it wasn't for me. I was sleuthing for myself not because I was out to get anyone but decided I'd let you know here today because it's only fair your informed.

from left to right.

Sanctuary by Adam Bomb Adam Bomb - Sanctuary

The GQ Lounge by Mr. Sweets http://www.crownvape.com/products/mr-sweets-e-liquid-gq-lounge-30ml

Knight`s Honor by 28 Days Vape Knight's Honor

The Last Cowboy by Mad Mike`s https://mad-mikes.com/product/the-last-cowboy/

Scarlet by The Collection. Scarlet by The Collection | eLiquid.com

Busted Limo by Transit Vapes Transit Vape : Busted Limo - Peanut Butter & Jelly


please provide proof that these juices are made by Clear Creek.

 

[SmoKnoMoCigZ]

That's some fun shadiness/drama there...lol.

The part i can't get over (minus the obv bad business ethics) is that apparently you have to "watch a video" before you unsubscribe to the service?

Anyone know anything more about that?

That just seems like craziness, and honestly i'd be pretty ...... if i had to jump through hoops to unsubscribe.

i cancelled and i didn`t watch the video.

 

[BraveNewWorld]

Sorry, after looking at so many pics and juices I don't remember who is who anymore. I do see those bottles and labels and steer clear.
There's 100's of people getting their creek liquids, why not you?
I know I didn't go through febs boxes it isn't till the end everyone posts, and the details had exploded already.

january boxes all contained the house juice from you tube reviewers, however, february's were all clean from the ones i went through.

I don't subscribe but its interesting to me how this plays out.

 

[SmoKnoMoCigZ]

yeah i keep seeing these threads popping up here but i can only go by my experience. i got six months worth of boxes and none had any of the funky juice in them. i kinda regret cancelling my subscription.

 

[BraveNewWorld]

yeah i keep seeing these threads popping up here but i can only go by my experience. i got six months worth of boxes and none had any of the funky juice in them. i kinda regret cancelling my subscription.

are you sure? Did you read the e-juice list of clearcreek juices?
oakheart vaporcraft
clouds over seattle
asteroid
3 leaves
theres like two more im missing....

i see them in almost every youtube channel for january, december, and november. i didn't go further than that

 

[SmoKnoMoCigZ]

are you sure? Did you read the e-juice list of clearcreek juices?
oakheart vaporcraft
clouds over seattle
asteroid
3 leaves
theres like two more im missing....

i see them in almost every youtube channel for january, december, and november. i didn't go further than that

none of those names showed up in any of my boxes. literally every bottle i got i can find online for sale and have not found any connection to clear creek. i saw a single photo of these house made juices on reddit and the labels were kind of a dead giveaway on not being legit. all had a common background pattern on different color labels. very distinct and looked very cheap. odd thing is if it was a widespread problem i think we would see pics of the suspect juices in peoples boxes all the time? but all i see is legit pics of peoples boxes. i hear a lot of people .....in` about bad juice but i ain`t see`n no pics!!! show me all your bad juice!?!?!???

 

[skoony]

I don't know if you read the entire thread. It's a long one. The main problem everyone has with ZB (Tony) is that he lied about his involvement. If he would have been honest, this wouldn't be such a big deal. I won't do business with a liar.

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and his involvement is none of our business nor of any
real concern. inventing intrigues out of whole cloth seems to be
a pass time on these e-cig forums and i a calling them
as i see them. his personal business life is his.
did any one stop to think he may be wanting certain things
to remain confidential so as not to allow competitors to
be in the know. its just as likely it was that reason as any other
spouted on these forums. every time i see threads such as these
i get the impression they're nothing but thinly disguised attempts
to damage the reputation and sales of the company tied to
today's whipping post.
when did he lie about his involvement,some snoop found
out about it and made seam there was some sort of nefarious situation
going on where none existed.

regards
mike