• What's your favorite mod?

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tepicky

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I think there is some hesitation as zen himself has said that he does not want these screws to be removed (it will void warranty).... If you are losing power it may be in the switch.... Do u have magnets or spring? How many ohms are you running? If you are running really low ohms the "safety" spring in the switch may be limiting you, in which case I'd say magnets will provide full power for you....

Just saying there may be another way to get the performance you desire without voiding a lifetime warranty, just my half-nickel

Hey bumpi! Thanks for writing back. The dx came with a spring. Im running a .9 ohm coil in my atty, and it doesnt hit as good as my 25 dollar chichi. I tried to put a different spring, which increased the performance a tad. However, the reason i want to change the screw on the 510 connection is because the part that touches my atty isnt flat. One side of it is a tad more raised than the other, therefore not making full contact on my atty's center pin. That may or may not restrict conductivity..idk. And i get misfires. I have to press the button harder at times. I just want it to wok :/
 

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Hey bumpi! Thanks for writing back. The dx came with a spring. Im running a .9 ohm coil in my atty, and it doesnt hit as good as my 25 dollar chichi. I tried to put a different spring, which increased the performance a tad. However, the reason i want to change the screw on the 510 connection is because the part that touches my atty isnt flat. One side of it is a tad more raised than the other, therefore not making full contact on my atty's center pin. That may or may not restrict conductivity..idk. And i get misfires. I have to press the button harder at times. I just want it to wok :/

mine had a crudy spring and ens replaced with a shiny one. I also very carefully took a fine file and smoothed that pin your talking about. I did the screws the same, nice flat spot now. my center pin was also the same way. is working the better now, can always get a jeweler to replate the screws.

have heard that if the coil is below 1.5 the spring will act as a voltage dump, if I can remember correctly

I know how you feel trying to get it to hit right
 
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Hmmm... If pushing the button harder gets it to perform better i would think that would mean it has to do with amp limiting in the springs u are using rather than the center pin connection....i hear what you are saying about flush contact surface, but when going that low on ohms id say ur real issue is elsewhere.....

try an experiment if u really wanna find what's going on... Add another wrap or use a higher res wire, to get up to around 1.3 ohm, then try the same atty on both mods, and ill bet the zen performs better..... You can always go from there and go back down to sub ohm if desired, and play with switch current limiting factors to make it run as desired, at least ill rule out the center pin before voiding warranty.. Again, just my $.02

I run magnets in all my switches cause i don't want to limit current, but keep atties around 1.3 anyway cause to me they rock there, and that's what I liked before i ever used a meter on my coil.....there was a time when we didnt worry about ohms, we just did wraps counts
 

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I run magnets in all my switches cause i don't want to limit current, but keep atties around 1.3 anyway cause to me they rock there, and that's what I liked before i ever used a meter on my coil.....there was a time when we didnt worry about ohms, we just did wraps counts

ive got magnets in mine and don't notice much of a difference. I wonder how the magnets would make much of a difference, I don't see them making contact between the 2 parts of the switch.
 

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That's the thing... Instead of current going through the spring, which limits it, with magnets the current flows through the walls of the switch that come in contact.... It's a wire (coiled as a spring) vs 2 slabs of metal that can pass more current.... It only matters when ur trying to push more power than the spring can handle
 

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That's the thing... Instead of current going through the spring, which limits it, with magnets the current flows through the walls of the switch that come in contact.... It's a wire (coiled as a spring) vs 2 slabs of metal that can pass more current.... It only matters when ur trying to push more power than the spring can handle

that makes sense. I still get side contact with the spring, but maybe more with magnets. there seems to be a stigma when the new zens not hitting hard, not all but a few..

evening millertime
 

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that makes sense. I still get side contact with the spring, but maybe more with magnets. there seems to be a stigma when the new zens not hitting hard, not all but a few..

evening millertime

hey matt..... you are right... I have heard some stories of some not working up to par. It has to be the switch though.... I would think anyways.
 

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hey matt..... you are right... I have heard some stories of some not working up to par. It has to be the switch though.... I would think anyways.

im thinking switch too, but cant figure out. tried new super shiny gold spring, steel spring, magnets, and brass screw. also slight filed the gold screw so I has a flat surface, helped a bit...?

also had a kick fry itself in there, that was a little scary. soo kinda don't want to do that again
 

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i use a steel screw and a sanded down brass screw.... I also sand down my spring and where the spring contacts at least once a week. I wish you had another switch to try out.

I figure it out eventually, it like it not conducting properly. when I put the kick in the carto gets hot. not warm but hot. like its pushing a good bit of current through there to make up for something lacking... if that makes sense.

just saw you on cb's show ripple, your a pretty chill cat
 

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have you tried any other cartos besides those 2 batches?

I just ordered a 5 pack of boges, they have been running about 2.2ohms. also ordered 5 pack of smoktek ressurectors, those are about 1.7 ohms. funny thing is the smokteks hit like a train now. and when I use the boges I can here the carto poping and crackling good, but there just not performing well. I would call it a weak vape.

but the smokteks wont hold juicelll

im waiting on another vender to get some stock in, always get carto's from this place I wont name here.
 
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