ZFM Zero Filler Mod
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If your small hole floods then your straw is too long for your atty. stick with the H plug and lower it down a hair at a time till you get the proper flow..
WHOOOOOOOOOOOT!!! I just got done making all tonights plugs and have been vapeing on my MK2 the whole time damn thing is awsome.. Ive got a pretty good deal lined up with trog so I may go ahead and stock these since they work so damn good love it and I cant see the things ever breaking...
cool man hope that works out, the SD is great.
glad you got your as well and like it as much as I like mine, the damn things are awesome and Im with ya I dont see it breaking...
Just a question, i tried the zfm mod last night and while it seems to be working pretty well, im not getting to much life out of my carts. Maybe 10-15 drags total. Im getting about 11 drops into each cart and it wicks it bone dry within 15 minutes of vaping. Is this average?
Ok well i guess i know where the liquid is going. Just had half a cart dump out on my hand while holding my 510. Im totally lost. If i use the star pattern i cant get any juice on the atty. I cut a pen tip size hole and now all the juice is pouring out. Any tips?
I had the same problem with the first few i made, I have two plugs that work ok but they still leak, so I bit the bullet and ordered a few plugs from scotty. Word is they work really well but I am waiting on mine to get in the mail, but will reply on how they do.
I use a silver bullet with 510 atties/carts. What I found after ordering some ZFM carts is that H plugs and hole plugs all flooded the atty.
What did I do to fix it?
Put a hole plug down first, and an H cut on top of that one. The two plugs together works FANTASTIC. As long as you don't overfill the cart (don't go higher than the straw top) then you will not flood it.
Lasts anywhere from 1-4 hours depending how often you pick it up and vape. I'll take a vape or two every minute or so, and it typically lasts about an hour and a half doing that.
What did I do to fix it?
Put a hole plug down first, and an H cut on top of that one. The two plugs together works FANTASTIC. As long as you don't overfill the cart (don't go higher than the straw top) then you will not flood it.
Lasts anywhere from 1-4 hours depending how often you pick it up and vape. I'll take a vape or two every minute or so, and it typically lasts about an hour and a half doing that.
Thats what im thinking of doing, besides, he deserves the business just for coming up with such an ingenious idea. I just shortened the straw on the one with the hole to prevent it from opening too wide and it seems to be ok for now. Im sure it'll start leaking eventually, just my luck.
nice, I'll have to keep that in mind when i get mine in the mail if they leak, thanks for the tip.
So simple it is genius! thanks for sharing! will have to try
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Im seeing more and more potential in this mod throughout the day. So far i've tried a pen tip sized hole and an H pattern. I have the straw pretty high. High enough that with the cap on it sits flush with the lip of the cart. My question now is for those of you using a hole, what size do you make it? I wish i could take a picture but my phones cam is terrible. The best way i could describe mine is if you look down at your keyboard at the (.), thats about how big it is. Even at that it flooded on me once, but then at other times i only get 1 or 2 drags and then vapor drops off.
I believe for a round hole to work it would need to be just large enough to all the "tip" of the atomizer to penetrate through to the juice without going deeper and opening up a path "under" the bridge tip that would allow the juice to leak through (of course, this will come into play more depending on your juice consistancy).
With the "H" cut, the two outside flaps would essentially wrap under the bridge tip and restrict the chance of leaking.
Honestly, I feel the comon basis of problems most are experiencing with leaking is caused by both the hole size AND the straw length since most leaking starts when the plug is being contorted or forced which ends up breaking the plugs "sit" seal on the outer edges of the cart when pushed forward by the bridge tip.
-Greg
With the "H" cut, the two outside flaps would essentially wrap under the bridge tip and restrict the chance of leaking.
Honestly, I feel the comon basis of problems most are experiencing with leaking is caused by both the hole size AND the straw length since most leaking starts when the plug is being contorted or forced which ends up breaking the plugs "sit" seal on the outer edges of the cart when pushed forward by the bridge tip.
-Greg
Scotty, got the plugs about an hour ago and so far so good. I tried the double plug method and the H cut and seems the H cut works better for me so far and seemed to get the straw length right the first cut. will post back tomorrow or next day with more results. Thanks again scotty, hats off to ya for a great mod!!
Where the straw is flush against the cart, there's no support for the plug. A surface is needed here, like a rectangular washer. Maybe a nylon washer, cut just a bit.... or a thicker straw.
you could just notch the straw and fold it inwards too..
I was afraid if I did that it would start caving in too much.
Not exactly a newbie at vaping, since I've been doing it off and on for over a year, but I finally got serious after a purchase of a Silver Bullet PV. After messin' around with the PTB filler mod, I got down to employing Scott's ZFM last night. My first attempt went wonderfully, although I had some close encounters with the X-acto and the blood-tight integrity of my fingers. Luckily I didn't spring any leaks (fingers, that is). I decided to make up a spare cart (510) to take to work and was deciding on a safer method of cap-cutting. First, I placed a cap over the cart and punched a hole through it with a sharp pencil, and while it was still taut on the cart made two tiny incisions in a cross pattern, each about .040" (this is Amurrica, boys) in each direction. Then I got a 2" C-clamp and cinched the cart and cap down with the cap on the fixed end of the clamp, snug enough so it wouldn't slip. I cut the body of the cap off first, yielding a tube that I slid up the cart so I wouldn't have to wiggle the X-acto blade down so far. Once the circular body was out of the way, I cut the remainder flush all the way around the perimeter of the cart. When I released the clamp, the silicone, which was compressed a bit, nicely shrunk to fill the inside of the cart very snugly. My initial fill was done by filling the straw with my juice and then replacing the plug. BTW, the straw is .590" long - Amurrica, ya know? Refilling the cart was accomplished with an old syringe I had lying around from refilling inkjet cartridges, poking it in the hole made by the pencil. All in all a very satisfying evening mod. Since I'm lazy at heart, I ordered a bunch of pre-made plugs from Scott's website this morning.
Great idea Scott. I look forward to ordering some 901 carts for my wife's Mini from your site when they become available.
Kudos to youse.
Great idea Scott. I look forward to ordering some 901 carts for my wife's Mini from your site when they become available.
Kudos to youse.
Just tried this on my Ego with the 510 atty, I think Ive found my new secret weapon
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