Do you increase the flavor % if you increase VG % in your recipe?

[hardimen]

Hi folks. I made this 10ml recipe this morning and it tastes very good to me:

Ube Macapuno Vanilla Ice Cream
Ube (Oober Goober) 4%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (Signature) 4%
Coconut (Capella) 4%
EM 1% or 2 drops per 10ml

60/40 PG/VG mix with 4mg Nic

I steeped it only 2 8-minute cycles on my UC. There's a little bit of harshness so I want to try adding more VG.

Ube Macapuno is a Filipino ice cream flavor that taste really yummy!

Anyway, I want more vapor so I want to increase the VG percentage to 60%. I figured I would add 1% to each flavor (except EM) for each 10% increase in VG so I ended up with this new recipe:

Ube Macapuno Vanilla Ice Cream
Ube (Oober Goober) 6%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (Signature) 6%
Coconut (Capella) 6%
EM 1% or 2 drops per 10ml

40/60 PG/VG mix with 4mg Nic

Does this makes sense to you guys? Is this normally what you would do or do you use the same flavor percentage regardless of the PG/VG mix percentage?

 

[fogging_katrider]

I find that it makes sense to note what kind of pg/vg ratio the author of a recipe uses.
Found out the hard way, that when I follow some recipes in my usual 70/30 or 65/35 ratio, it ends up being horribly over flavored if the original author was running a mostly vg final mix.

To your question though...
Its not a giant difference from a 60/40 to a 40/60, so I wouldnt bump it by fifty percent like you're suggesting... thats a giant leap jumping from 12% total flavorings to 18%. I would maybe try bumping those three flavors by .5 % at a time each. and steep longer btw on the 40/60

 

[hardimen]

Thanks for the response. So, I experimented with upping the flavor percentage the way I had originally posted and found that the increase in VG is muting the flavor too much. Even with the increased percentage in flavor, the overall flavor of the juice is actually less... back to the drawing board, I guess.

 

[we2rcool]

Be cautious/conservative with upping the flavor percentages! Those of us that use primarily/solely VG, rarely find it necessary to up the flavor percentages. VG is thicker, and it does seem to take longer for some flavors to 'steep into' the mix sometimes. You'll find a lot of us VGers that post that the "VG needs more flavor" thing is just not the case. Ymmv, of course.

 

[hardimen]

I think you guys have a point. I just need to exercise more patience and wait for it to steep. I'll try it - no increase in flavor, just increase the steep time. Thanks!

 

[bob949]

I suspect that EM may dull flavors as well. Does anyone use sucralose instead? Thanks!

 

[hardimen]

I suspect that EM may dull flavors as well. Does anyone use sucralose instead? Thanks!

When I increased my VG %, I increased the other flavors except for EM so in my case I believe it was the VG that dulled the flavor. In my short DIY experience, I found that TFA Smooth (even at 1 drop per 10ml) dulls the flavor so I don't like using it on my recipes. On the other hand, I use EM a lot more than sucralose or any sweetener.