What a surprise! Had forgotten about this actually. Today I got the VS4 and Phoenix. Enjoying (really enjoying) the VS4 right now. EXACTLY what I'd been looking for in tobacco flavor. Sure, this is my initial impression, but right now I think I very much will be ordering more VS4. Haven't tried the Phoenix yet, but after this sampling, I'm looking forward to that too. Thank you Eric! A very smart way to build customer base. Worked for me for sure!