Good battery?

[PapaGeno21]

If I wanted to get a nemesis style mod, would this be a good battery to use?

http://www.lighthound.com/AW-18650-Protected-3400-mAh-Rechargeable-Lithium-Battery-_p_4149.html

I don't know much about these types of batteries I just plug my MVP 2.0 into the wall when it goes orange and that's it.

What is a good charger that I would use?

Are the 18650's bulky? Is the middle size more realistic for daily usage?

I use clearomizers around the 2.5 ohms mark. I don't care much for low impedance coils and excessive current draw.

Sorry in advance if I'm in the wrong forum, thanks in advance for any help offered.

 

[Scarey]

I would suggest the red sleeve AW's, the IMR safer chemistry ones. Protected is okay, but safer is safer... Genuine AW Batteries at RTD Vapor

18650's are pretty big, but they last longer.

 

[Ranic85]

For 1 ohm and up I would recommend AW 2000 MAh batteries. If you ever decide to go sub-ohm, you should get AW IMR 1600s, MNKE 1500s, or Panasonic 30 amp, or is it Sony 30 amp. Since you said you enjoy 2.0ohm coils, the AW IMR 2000mah batteries will be fine. They have a 10 AMP limit.

 

[Thrasher]

on a side note: your not going to get much enjoyment from a mechanical with a 2.5 ohm coil

the benefit of a mechanical is the power draw and with an unregulated battery you will get an hour or two at best with a high resistance coil. no matter what size battery you use.

 

[BardicDruid]

If I wanted to get a nemesis style mod, would this be a good battery to use?

AW 18650 Protected 3400 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery

I don't know much about these types of batteries I just plug my MVP 2.0 into the wall when it goes orange and that's it.

What is a good charger that I would use?

Are the 18650's bulky? Is the middle size more realistic for daily usage?

I use clearomizers around the 2.5 ohms mark. I don't care much for low impedance coils and excessive current draw.

Sorry in advance if I'm in the wrong forum, thanks in advance for any help offered.

They will work great as long as you don't go below 1.7 or 1.8 ohms.

 

[BardicDruid]

on a side note: your not going to get much enjoyment from a mechanical with a 2.5 ohm coil

That's completely not true, I get plenty of enjoyment out of my mechs with carto tanks.

 

[ericbnc]

That's completely not true, I get plenty of enjoyment out of my mechs with carto tanks.

There's a big difference in the vape between 2.5 and 1.7 ohms, but neither is really in the sweet spot for me.

 

[Thrasher]

That's completely not true, I get plenty of enjoyment out of my mechs with carto tanks.

while I dont doubt it and to each his own, You are def in the minority if using 2.5 ohms on a mech. either that or you change batteries 3 times a day.

 

[Baditude]

If I wanted to get a nemesis style mod, would this be a good battery to use?

AW 18650 Protected 3400 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery

I don't know much about these types of batteries I just plug my MVP 2.0 into the wall when it goes orange and that's it.

What is a good charger that I would use? Are the 18650's bulky? Is the middle size more realistic for daily usage?

I use clearomizers around the 2.5 ohms mark. I don't care much for low impedance coils and excessive current draw.

It sounds like you prefer the cooler vape of higher resistance coils. I can relate with that.

However, 2.5 ohm is kinda high for a mechanical mod. When I use a mech and a clearo/carto even I prefer a 2.0 ohm resistance, otherwise vapor and flavor suffers. YMMV though.

AW IMR batteries are what I use in all of my mods, mechanical and regulated. They offer the most consistancy battery to battery. Panasonic hybrid batteries are also a strong choice.

Genuine AW Batteries at RTD Vapor

I recommend the best charger that you can afford. The Pila and Xtar VP1 are the top two chargers available for vapors. A middle ground would be an Xtar WP2 II or SP2, or Nitecore Intellicharger, i2 or i4. I would avoid the chargers with spring loads and go with the ones that have a slider bar or spacers to hold the batteries. RTD Vapor has the largest selection available, good prices, and fast delivery.

Battery chargers at RTD Vapor

 

[PapaGeno21]

Thanks for the help guys, this is EXACTLY what I am looking for.

OK so here is where I would need some advice. I currently have my MVP set to 6.5 watts. Which should be putting out somewhere around 4v if my math is somewhat correct on a 2.5 ohm coil.

So now I see what you are getting at. If the voltage is just 3.6, it seems I would benefit from using the 2.0 or 1.8 to get the same vape that I am getting now. Right?

So this MVP lasts me approx 3-4 days of vaping. The thing is 2600 mah. So would an "AW IMR 18650 3.7v 2000mAh" last me about two days?

 

[Thrasher]

the logic is sound, heres the problem though. the voltage on a regulated mod is kept at whatever you set it til the battery dies. in a mech the battery will "sag" meaning even at 3.6 it may drop to 3.4 when fired.
so they are charged to 4.2 drop kinda quick and hang around 3.6-3.7v for a while once you drop below this point it;s kinda unusable, it will stil vape but not real well, in the mvp it will hold the voltage until the abattery is down around 3.2 in a mech this is pretty low.

the aw is an excellent battery but for longer life try the panasonic 2900
Batteries : Panasonic High Drain NCR18650PF Hybrid 2900mAh Flat Top
this is the battery I use and should work fine in a nemi.

if you know for a fact you wont go below 1 ohm these are awesome batteries for long haul vaping.
http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-chargers/panasonic-3400mah-18650-li-ion-battery-cell-ncr18650b
I run them with .8-.9 ohms on my roller

 

[PapaGeno21]

Here is the issue though. Those are all unprotected. The red AW's seem to be unprotected as well? That would be a problem in a mech mod without any sort of protection circuit.

So would this not be a better choice do to its protection?

http://www.orbtronic.com/protected-3400mah-18650-li-ion-battery-panasonic-ncr18650B-orbtronic

 

[Scarey]

Thanks for the help guys, this is EXACTLY what I am looking for.

OK so here is where I would need some advice. I currently have my MVP set to 6.5 watts. Which should be putting out somewhere around 4v if my math is somewhat correct on a 2.5 ohm coil.

So now I see what you are getting at. If the voltage is just 3.6, it seems I would benefit from using the 2.0 or 1.8 to get the same vape that I am getting now. Right?

So this MVP lasts me approx 3-4 days of vaping. The thing is 2600 mah. So would an "AW IMR 18650 3.7v 2000mAh" last me about two days?

Well, sort of... A straight battery ranges from 4.2V on a full charge, down to 3.5V when you need to recharge. It will spen a majority of its life at 3.7V. As a vaper who is not looking to go sub-ohm, and is looking at a nemesis/chemesis, I would suggest getting a kick, so you have VW function. The nemmy has room for an 18650 with a kick. If you go that route, you might want to go with the 1600mah AW IMR's, just to be safe, as the boost circuitry pushes up your amps to compensate for lower voltage in the later part of your charge. You should get a full day out of a 1600mah, maybe a little more. Just depends on how much you vape, I guess.

 

[Scarey]

Here is the issue though. Those are all unprotected. The red AW's seem to be unprotected as well? That would be a problem in a mech mod without any sort of protection circuit.

So would this not be a better choice do to its protection?

3400mAh Protected Panasonic 18650 battery cell by Orbtronic

IMR batteries are unprotected because they don't need protection. They use a different, more stable chemistry, that is safer than a protected Li-Ion.

Note: the evolv kick2 has a resettable fuse in it as well as the VW function, so you would gain the benefit of that, if you were to go that route.

 

[Baditude]

Here is the issue though. Those are all unprotected. The red AW's seem to be unprotected as well? That would be a problem in a mech mod without any sort of protection circuit.

So would this not be a better choice do to its protection?

3400mAh Protected Panasonic 18650 battery cell by Orbtronic

That depends upon what you plan to use on your mechanical mod.

Over-the-counter coils (clearomizers/cartomizers) are not that demanding on a battery so the Panasonic NRC18650B 3400mah battery would be fine and give you extremely long battery time. However, it is not a high drain battery, so it can not be used in a regulated mod, a mechanical mod using a Kick, nor for an RBA/RDA.

A better all-around battery would be an IMR like the AW IMR or a hybrid battery like the Panasonic NCR18650PD 2900mah battery that Thrasher suggested. Safer chemistry IMR and hybrid batteries are safer alternatives to protected batteries and are now recommended for nearly all mod applications.

I suggest taking a few minutes to read these two blogs about batteries, and then your understanding will become clearer:

Deeper Understanding of Batteries (two parts)

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected?

 

[bishop06]

What about the Samsung INR -20's? The specs on those look nice.

 

[Baditude]

What about the Samsung INR -20's? The specs on those look nice.

Samsung hybrid (LiNiCoMnP)
INR18650-22P 2200mAh 10A
INR18650-20R 2000mah 22A

These are a high drain hybrid battery and are highly recommended. The INR-22P is more of a general purpose battery, while the 22 amp INR-20R is more suited for the needs of sub-ohm vapors.

A large list of IMR/hybrid batteries appropriate for mod use is in the above link "Battery Basics for Mods".

 

[Thrasher]

Orbtronics as well as RTD carry the b in a protected version as well, and seeing how your not going high power it should work also.

 

[PapaGeno21]

Thanks so much guys. I read all the links. I do get this a lot more now.

Looks like I will get me some of these when the time comes.

http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001980/1233700-panasonic-ncr18650pd-18650-3-6v-2900mah

And I LOVE this charger. Just so cool lookin.

Xtar VP1 Battery Charger Li-ion FREE shipping from Florida

The main question now is this. If I did NOT use a kick, and DID use those batteries which "are" safe hybrid chemistry, how would I know they are out of juice?

Or should I just get a kick and those batts and call it a day?

IS this a good kick? http://www.madvapes.com/the-kick-by-smok-tech.html

 

[JMarca]

This would also be a great battery and soon out of stock for good!

AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery

If you're going to buy a kick just spend a few extra bucks and buy the original:

Your Online Electronic Cigarette Store Kick v1

http://altsmoke.com/kick-2-evolv.html - Kick v2