Help Mixing DIY juice with Perf. Apprentice tobacco flavor

[cconti]

I Have already successfully mixed many of my own juices using Loreann's flavors. Today I received my Perfumer's apprentice "Concentrated food flavor" tobacco and as I prepared to mix I realized I had no idea if I should use the same proportion as I did with loreanns or if things were different.

Can anyone help out?

Thanks

 

[mergryphon]

I have not used any of their tobacco flavors, but I have a ton of their other ones, as do others I know. Most of us use them at about 20% flavoring.

 

[cconti]

I just did a test batch trying 10% and it was too low, so I upped it to 20% and it seems about right. Thank you for the confirmation.

I have to say that I am not terribly fond of these flavors yet. They seem a bit too... parfumely (Obviously, not a real word, but i am sure you understand).
It makes me feel like I am vaping after shave.

I think I'll stick with store bought tobacco flavors and mix my own fruity flavors and menthol. That is, as soon as I finish these. They are not disgusting, just different.

 

[DM]

I have the TPA Tobacco. It's recomended that you start at 1% and then add to your liking... Then I would let it steep for a day or so. Taste a little grassy in the beginning I like Flavour Art tobacco flavorings better." they taste more like tobacco" IMO....

 

[JD1]

....I have to say that I am not terribly fond of these flavors yet. They seem a bit too... parfumely (Obviously, not a real word, but i am sure you understand)........

Most usually, steeping will vastly improve this. Some folks have posted that steeping can be speeded up by placing the open bottle in hot water. I haven't tried that myself, but it sounds like it might work. I can say that I've had juices whose flavor improved dramatically after being left (with top on, btw) in cool dark place for a few days.

 

[dormouse]

Is it called tobacco absolute? What is the exact name of the flavor? If it's absolute then you use 1/2 drop per 5ml? Some very small amount.

Here - check the comments on whatever you got - maybe somebody listed what they use
Perfumers Apprentice - Tobacco Flavors (no natural tobacco)
Perfumers Apprentice - Tobacco Blends, Absolutes, & Extracts

If not then ask in the DIY section of ECF

 

[Hoosier]

The "aftershave" taste is a sign the concentration of flavoring is too high. Giving it time to mix would probably help the 10% mix.

 

[kabonk]

I use their Tobacco Blend not on its own but with some halzenut or vanilla at about 8% but your taste will very make small batches you have to play with it

 

[markfm]

As a tobacco base, I use their "tobacco blend" at 12%. It goes nicely with 8% black cherry or vanilla.

(I'm doing a bunch of low or no pg mixing, where flavor %s need to be pretty high, actually use the tobacco blend alc version.)

If it is tobacco absolute, I always buy the diluted version, the one cut with pga. ta I don't use as a base flavor, but rather to punch up something else, like a mix using seedman commercial. Ta diluted I add at 2 - 4 drops per 10 ml of final liquid, adds a nice twang to the mix.