Hm. Skeptical.. can't tell if these are legit.. any input?

[Platemail]

A friend sent me this link for APPARENT Panasonic 18650's for $4.00... :/

What do you guys think?

Amazon.com: Panasonic CGR18650CG Rechargeable 3.6V Li-ion 18650 Battery 2250mAh, 3008: Electronics

 

[kelleymcm]

are they these >>Batteries & Chargers : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

ooops wrong link kinda .... white ones middle of page

duh sorry I see your link now .... the difference is the CG ???
which has to do with the chemical makeup of batt I do believe ...

surely some one will come along that has a clue ....

 

[Platemail]

are they these >>Batteries & Chargers : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

ooops wrong link kinda .... white ones middle of page

No, they are on that site though, listed for $14.95.

I know sometimes these vapor-sites can really stick a heavy mark up on products. batteries aren't all that expensive to buy wholesale and I do see some sites with them listed for 6$ so maybe 4$ isn't SO farfetched? It would be easy for someone to buy them for 3$ a pop and charge 10 - 15 because the name Panasonic, plus with these e-cig related things people typically will just bite and spend a little more if it comes from a vapor-store. Supposing it gives them buyer faith and peace of mind.

 

[vsummer1]

Those are CG, not CH. Not sure what the difference is other than color, but I passed because I didn't want to get the wrong ones. I hope someone can explain the difference.

 

[Platemail]

Those are CG, not CH. Not sure what the difference is other than color, but I passed because I didn't want to get the wrong ones. I hope someone can explain the difference.

Well, they don't appear to be either protected OR IMR so I think I'll pass. My buddy ordered 6 of them so I guess if I have to rush him to the E.R with a bad case of cheap-batteries-made-my-mod-explode-in-my-face-itus, We'll know for sure

 

[CPT.SPALDING]

be sure to read about how important battery safety is. A ton of people my self included,only use AW brand batteries.you really cant put a price on safety.

 

[vsummer1]

be sure to read about how important battery safety is. A ton of people my self included,only use AW brand batteries.you really cant put a price on safety.

Which is why I passed, figured better safe than sorry. I do like the CGR18650cH though, even better than the AW's. It's sad they discontinued them.

 

[Kable]

Those are CG, not CH. Not sure what the difference is other than color, but I passed because I didn't want to get the wrong ones. I hope someone can explain the difference.

Well, for one thing, the CG is not a high drain battery. Maximum current draw is 2.5 amps. CH is 10 amps. For most of us, 2.5 amps is plenty, and some of our devices even cut off before that. However, since CG is not an IMR battery, I don't think the chemistry is quite as safe. I would say it depends on what device you are going to use these in. You might not want to use them in a mechanical mod powering RBAs.

 

[J.R. Bob Dobbs]

i did a lot of searching and after about 20 minutes i figured out these batteries are from panasonic's industrial division. the CG18650 you guys are referring to does NOT appear to be protected. I searched through rose electronics division and fedco electronics, both are authorized manufacturer/ distributor's of panasonic in north america. The only reference i could find is that they are only approved for use with "approved safety circuit"
Fedco Electronics, ENERGY+ batteries and accessories for laptop,notebook computers (type 18650 into search box)
Panasonic Li-Ion Cell for Use With Approved Safety Circuit
Energy+ Part: CGR18650A
Brand: Panasonic
Type: Li-Ion
Voltage: 3.7
Capacity: 2000 mAh
Color:
Size: 18mm dia. x 65mm tall
Contacts: Button Type
Warranty: 12 Months


fr9om panasonic's industrial site:
North America
8 Part Numbers found for: 18650

Part Number Distributor Quantity Inventory Date
CGR-18650CG|1
ROSE ELECTRONICS DISTRIBUTION 13891 1/15/2013 CONTACT DISTRIBUTOR
CGR18650CF
HOUSE OF BATTERIES 3919 2/22/2013 CONTACT DISTRIBUTOR
CGR18650CG
HOUSE OF BATTERIES 8404 2/22/2013 CONTACT DISTRIBUTOR
CGR18650DA
FEDCO ELECTRONICS INC. 2869 2/24/2013 ORDER NOW
CGR18650EA
HOUSE OF BATTERIES 2480 2/22/2013 CONTACT DISTRIBUTOR
NCR-18650A|1
ROSE ELECTRONICS DISTRIBUTION 2314 1/15/2013 CONTACT DISTRIBUTOR
NCR18650
HOUSE OF BATTERIES 416 2/22/2013 CONTACT DISTRIBUTOR
NCR18650(.3C)
HOUSE OF BATTERIES 287 2/22/2013 CONTACT DISTRIBUTOR

no distributor results were found for europe or asia.

EDIT: I have no earthly idea why it double attached, nor can i delete either image. and they loaded tiny despite being high resolution.

 

[Ryedan]

Here's a datasheet I found on this battery.

Seems like it's a non-IMR, non-cobalt based cell with no protection circuit. Does that make it their hybrid technology?

As a few have said already, I would not use one in my PV. Who knows what it really is.

 

[Ryedan]

i did a lot of searching and after about 20 minutes i figured out these batteries are from panasonic's industrial division. the CG18650 you guys are referring to does NOT appear to be protected. I searched through rose electronics division and fedco electronics, both are authorized manufacturer/ distributor's of panasonic in north america. The only reference i could find is that they are only approved for use with "approved safety circuit"
Fedco Electronics, ENERGY+ batteries and accessories for laptop,notebook computers (type 18650 into search box)

Great find, and I didn't see it until after my last post!

Kable, I have not seen any spec on max discharge of these. Not doubting your 2.5 A, but if you know where you got that from a link would be great

 

[Kable]

Great find, and I didn't see it until after my last post!

Kable, I have not seen any spec on max discharge of these. Not doubting your 2.5 A, but if you know where you got that from a link would be great

I don't remember where I read it the first time, but here's another source:

Professional battery manufacturer offers Panasonic CGR18650CG 2250mAh battery. | Large Battery

"Discharge current: standard 320mA, max 2500mA"

 

[Ryedan]

Thank you sir, exactly what I was looking for. You know, after looking at it I think I saw that page once before. Must be old age

 

[kiwivap]

Well, they don't appear to be either protected OR IMR so I think I'll pass. My buddy ordered 6 of them so I guess if I have to rush him to the E.R with a bad case of cheap-batteries-made-my-mod-explode-in-my-face-itus, We'll know for sure

They are unprotected Li-ion batteries. Discussed in this thread also:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ed-cgr18650cg-mechanical-mod.html#post8672389