I might have misunderstood you, but are you saying that you are interested in the 20w P3 but wouldn't be interested if it was a 50w device? Why is that?I missed your post, but I will answer your question. If the P3 was a 50 watt mod I would not be interested in it. I'm happy now with both my 2.5's, but I do like the style of the P3. I'm not at all getting your menu issues with the P3. Looks simple enough for me to use. What confuses you? Changing the LED lights? Isn't the advantage to VW is all you do is set it and forget it?