is vaping addictive?

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parapo

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i was a 40 analogs/day smoker for 25 years, until last November when i got my first 901.
i cut analogs from day one and vaped ever since but also gradually cut down the nicotine.

now i'm nic free for over a week,but the addiction is still there......
when i'm without vapor for too long, i have cravings .....
not for analogs or nicotine. just to put some vapor in my lungs and "feel" the hit.

what's that all about?

i thought nicotine is the addictive ingredient.....
maybe it's not and it is the process of vaping....
....or is it too soon? :confused:


don't get me wrong,i don't mind vaping.
it is just a thought.
 
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Sun Vaporer

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i was a 40 analogs/day smoker for 25 years, until last November when i got my first 901.
i cut analogs from day one and vaped ever since but also gradually cut down the nicotine.

now i'm nic free for over a week,but the addiction is still there......
when i'm without vapor for too long, i have cravings .....
not for analogs or nicotine. just to put some vapor in my lungs and "feel" the hit.

what's that all about?

i thought nicotine is the addictive ingredient.....
maybe it's not and it is the process of vaping....
....or is it too soon? :confused:
I have never been addicted to nicotine as I smoked Carton for many years and with the trace amount of nicotine that are in them, I never had an addiction according to the FDA---But try telling my mind and body that. I have been vaping for 5 months now with zero nicotine and the desire to vape is just as strong as it was was when I was smoking those ugly analogs. So vaping is a viable alternative for me. It is not just the nicotine!! Hope that helps--Sun:)
 

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Nicotine is one of the fastest drugs to take effect, it only takes about 7 seconds for it to reach your brain and do his job. Nowadays, scientist tend to believe that it has a "normalizing" effect, i.e. it can either stimulate or relax the user according to the moment, and this, at least in my opinion, proves to be true. Many of us (i guess) have experienced the need for a cig while engaged in a stressful phone call (relaxing effect) and the same craving in a boring moment (stimulating one).

I don't believe that it takes 10 years to get rid of the chemically inducted cravings, i remember reading that it takes 3 weeks for your body to get rid of it, and that as soon as 20 minutes after having you fix the nicotine level in your blood drops to 50%. Sadly enough, psychological addiction to the cigarette can last forever, but hopefully we all do have a workaround now =)

Personally, i think i am still addicted to the nicotine itself. Vaping is totally different from smoking an analog to me, still, when i crave one, i seek help in my trusty evo to get my fix and quickly dismiss the idea of having a .... But i agree with Tribble when he says that there are probably other chemicals binding me to the evil weed =/
 

taz3cat

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I have read research that said analogs give us Harmine a anti-depression drug. I don't think the drug is on the market it''s just somehting in the analogs. I may have spelled Harmine wrong also for those of you htat like to look thinsgs up.I just remember I read about it on Wikipedia, then I looked it up on the National Libery of Medicine. So, there may be other things in analogs that we don't know about yet and neither do the scientist.
 

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There must be some 12 steppers on this forum could give you a different experience of addiction from each, as well as how in many ways we are all alike. Sounds complicated? Well it is. And it's also notoriously hard to treat from a professionals point of view.

However; many can and do beat their addictions.Support is vital, i know that much and you can get that here or from others in the same boat as yourself.

i do have one tip, which my wife who is very knowledgeable in this field was kind enough to remind me of. The compulsion to smoke that cigarette, drink that whisky or do what ever it is your addicted to doing is a very powerful thing. You can break out in a cold sweat just thinking about these things when the compulsion is upon you and giving into it can mean a late night walk across the city to get the money, find a shop open, or whatever. In actual fact, that strong compulsion will only last about 2 minutes. It may not seem that way, but trust me, it is. Nothing lasts forever, even if your head says i must have a cigarette and if i don't have one, i'll be stuck feeling like this, actually: you won't. About 2 minutes and it will pass.

Until the next time.

And that will pass too, and it will gradually happen less often.

2 minutes. If the addiction is killing you, 2 minutes. And support of your peers.

Just my 2 cents. 2 minutes.

Just a note: Some addictions can have withdrawals that can kill you. Those are rare, the most common being alcohol. So anybody reading this, don't ignore alcohol withdrawals, they require professional help.
 

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i do have one tip, which my wife who is very knowledgeable in this field was kind enough to remind me of. The compulsion to smoke that cigarette, drink that whisky or do what ever it is your addicted to doing is a very powerful thing. You can break out in a cold sweat just thinking about these things when the compulsion is upon you and giving into it can mean a late night walk across the city to get the money, find a shop open, or whatever. In actual fact, that strong compulsion will only last about 2 minutes. It may not seem that way, but trust me, it is. Nothing lasts forever, even if your head says i must have a cigarette and if i don't have one, i'll be stuck feeling like this, actually: you won't. About 2 minutes and it will pass.

I don't mean to p*ss on anybody's bonfire here but I'm sorry Mungo, two minutes? Nope.
 

texaslady

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i agree with the 2 minutes. i call them "triggers". when you have a trigger, if you're in a place where you can smoke, you smoke. if you're not, it goes away and comes back in a little while, goes away, comes back, etc.

but with vaping, when i have a trigger, i just vape and the trigger stops or leaves, immediately. i think that's why i have been able to completely quit the analogs by vaping, whereas using the patch or chewing the gum didn't do it for me. i have worn the patch and smoked. i've chewed the nasty gum and smoked.

but i don't vape and smoke. the vaping gets me past the triggers instantly. an i was at 50 analogs a day

i LUV vaping. now what i gotta do is lower the nic content in my liquids. not yet though. i'm too new, not ready yet.
 

Wynterbourne

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This is essentially how my father did it, just one cigarette at a time. He'd tried to quit cigarettes for well over 10 years that I know of, doing everything from the patch, to the gum, to hypnosis, to accupuncture. Nothing worked.

Then one day he woke up, smoked a cigarette, and decided not to smoke the next one. When he craved the next one he just told himself, "I'm too busy right now. I don't have time to go smoke." And so on...

Oh, and while he was quitting he didn't throw away any of his cigarettes. He carried one in the breast pocket of his shirt for the next month, and kept a full and open pack on the center console of his pick-up for the next 2 1/2 years.

He's been smoke free for about 10-15 years now.
 

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I don't mean to p*ss on anybody's bonfire here but I'm sorry Mungo, two minutes? Nope.

I recently went to a quit smoking class at Kaiser Medical and they mentioned the two minute urge thing. Most of the people in the class did not believe this though.

One of the things they recommended was to do something physical for those two minutes. My favorite suggestion was to put a rubber band around your hand and snap away when felt the urge.

This class was before i discovered e-smoking. I wish I went to that class with an e-cig.
 

DCrist721

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i was a 40 analogs/day smoker for 25 years, until last November when i got my first 901.
i cut analogs from day one and vaped ever since but also gradually cut down the nicotine.

now i'm nic free for over a week,but the addiction is still there......
when i'm without vapor for too long, i have cravings .....
not for analogs or nicotine. just to put some vapor in my lungs and "feel" the hit.

what's that all about?

i thought nicotine is the addictive ingredient.....
maybe it's not and it is the process of vaping....
....or is it too soon? :confused:


don't get me wrong,i don't mind vaping.
it is just a thought.

Many people are actually more psychologically addicted to that act of smoking (the hand/mouth movement, the oral fixation, etc) then they are actually chemically addicted to the substances they are smoking.

I read somewhere on here that nicotine on it's own actually shouldn't be chemically addictive, yet somehow in cigarettes it is, which leads researchers to believe that their are other chemicals in cigarettes which when combined with the nicotine, become extremely addictive.

So no, therefore vaping should not actually be chemically addictive. But like anything, it can be psychologically addictive. Like if you are accustomed to listening to the radio every time that you get in the car, you can become psychologically addicted to the radio.
 
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