I was thinking today that in a few months it will be two years since I started my journey to try to stop smoking. It was after about six months vaping and two months completely not smoking that I realized that I was still missing something and started sinking into depression. Luckily some of the senior members of the smokeless section heard my cry for help and led me to the smokeless forum and in turn to relief. Swedish snus and nasal snuff have been a god send for me. I have no doubt that I would have been smoking full time again by now had it not been for the intervention that took place. I now know that no liquid out there besides the WTA liquid that Dvap made contains the other alkaloids contained in tobacco that I crave and are left out of the liquids we vape. I still vape some to take care of the physical end of things but snus and snuff are what keep me off of the smokes for the most part. The past year and a half have been quite the roller coaster as I searched in vain for the perfect liquid and pv combination. The cravings and feelings of crawling in my own skin have come and gone many times and no doubt they will come again but I am better prepared now to handle them with a more complete arsenal of options.