The Differences Between 808 Batteries

Johnnie Price;8112964 said:

Several people seem to be getting confused about the differences in battery types when it comes to 808's, and it's no wonder considering the many different models out there. So I figured I'd try to put together a little guide explaining the various battery types out there to hopefully clear up some confusion. most of this information has been gleaned through reading many posts in this forum and a little web searching. I'm still new at this myself, so please feel free to correct me or add anything i may have missed.

The DSE-901/KR808D-1


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These are the stick batteries that most of us started out with. Okay, so the 901 and 808 are 2 different batteries, but the Generation 1 automatic and manual 808 batteries will work with 901 atomizers. I've been told Generation 2 automatic batteries generally will not work with 901 equipment due to air flow restrictions. A Generation 1 battery has a hole through the center of the battery connector to allow air to flow through the battery tube. The air flow is what activates the automatic battery so that it will fire and heat your atomizer. A Generation 2 battery still has holes through the battery connector for air flow. However, Generation 2 batteries have a bridge over the battery connector and the air holes have been made smaller and moved to the sides to better protect the battery from damage due to leakage from the atomizer. The design of the Generation 2 battery leads many companies to market them as sealed, but to the best of my knowledge it isn't truly sealed unless it's a manual battery. Since I've never used a Generation 2 automatic, this is all based on hearsay on my part.

There is also the KR808D-2 battery. These look the same as a regular 808 and even have similar threading, but there are differences between the two. Many people have successfully used standard 808 cartomizers on D-2 batteries, but they won't thread down all the way and produce a very airy draw. You also run the risk of damaging your battery and/or cartomizer when attempting this, since you can ruin the post on one or both devices. KR808D-2 batteries are generally only used by companies in an attempt to lock you in to only buying directly from them, such as Mistic and the SmartSmoke Alpha model among others.

The KR808DM-1

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These are mid-sized batteries, about the size of a cigarillo. They have also been called the mini-vgo. The thread is exactly the same as the standard 808, but the base of the battery and atomizer connection is a little wider. These batteries generally run at about 380 mAh. the Cigeasy Elite is probably the most well-known example of this battery. Again, anything that uses the standard 808 connection will work on a M-1 battery, but the diameter size may look a little funny when mixing and matching. I know of at least one company that markets an M-1 with proprietary threading, so buyer beware. I've only ever seen these batteries in manual.



The vGo/iGo

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There's not much to say about this one. It is exactly what the name implies: an 808 clone of the eGo. Anything made for the other two batteries will fit on this one as well, however DM-1 atomizers will not fit under a standard cone. Also, some eGo-only items may work on the vGo without an adapter, but if you're not sure then it's best to get an 808-eGo adapter just to be safe.

The Echo

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The other big battery option for 808's, these are exactly the same as the vGo in terms of diameter and mAh size. However, these batteries do not have the cone threads of the vGo. Anything designed for the standard 901/808 or DM-1 battery will fit on this battery just fine, but vGo designed atomizers will need an 808 battery extension in order to fit onto it. Any atomizers for the Echo will also fit on the vGo. One advantage of this design is that atomizers made to fit the Echo have a slightly larger capacity for e-liquid, by roughly 0.4 milliliters. This is because Echo cartomizers do not have to make room at the bottom for the skirt to cover the cone threads. The Echos also appear to be automatic only.

I hope I didn't miss anything or offer any misleading information. And I hope this helps to clear up any confusion when considering your options for equipment.

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