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Why a KR808d-1? Is it really the best?

Because the KR808d-1 is the only one I've ever even seen, let alone used, I have no way of knowing if it's "the best."

I do know that I, an Authentic Old, Sick, Heavily Sedated Person, was successfully practicing my puffing technique less than two minutes after removing it from the package, and that is precisely why you should get one.

But isn't that other one with the number I can't remember right now more popular? And didn't rolygate himself, the Exalted and Illustrious Lord High Chancellor of this very forum recommend that one, even though you didn't notice he was the Exalted and Illustrious Lord High Chancellor of this very forum until yesterday when you were fishing up something really wise he said somewhere else?

Probably, yes, and here's that wise thing:

0% of beginners know that the liquid they choose is probably more important than the hardware.
(Go read the whole post, it's chock-a-block with wise things)

The relevant point here is that "liquid" is Advanced Class stuff, and we're Beginners, which is where we'll stay unless we get started, and because we're old and sick, confused, and very likely loopy from our 3 o'clock pills, so getting started needs to be well within the capability range of the average cement yard goat.

Why the Vapor 4 Life store? Don't lots of stores sell KR808d-1 stuff?

They do. The KR808d-1 forum here has a thread with a list of them.

I'm saying go to Vapor 4 Life because a lot of people, who unlike me, do know what they're talking about, recommend it to people who've decided to start out with a KR808d-1, because that's all they sell. Whatever you get from them will work with whatever you already have.

No worrying if something will fit, no trying to remember how to spell "KR808d-1," or find it on a drop-down menu.

They also have a large, maybe the largest, selection of cartomizer flavors, as well as the largest selection of battery colors and sizes, and even wireless KR808d-1s that have a big jewel on the end, that lights up when you puff - just like the regular ones!

With the big picture as complicated as it is, and the US "Baby Boom" generation getting older by the minute, in my opinion, that's a pretty smart business model.

Even if we're in the best of health, we tend to appreciate anything that takes the guesswork out of new technologies. We'll RTFM in our own time, at our own pace, should we be so inclined, but if we're not, it's very convenient to be able to simply tell the nice operative we want a pink one and know it will work with what we've already got.

No, wait. If the other one is more popular...

As far as I can tell, from the very limited reading I've done on the subject, one of the reasons, if not the biggest one, that the other one is more popular is because it appears to lend itself to more newerbetterfasterbigger devices than the KR808d-1 does.

It's also worth pointing out that while rolygate, may his Illustriousness enjoy Perfect Rice Every Time, and many other people did suggest I get the other one, the actual winner, if you count them up (which I didn't, but I could just tell) was the KR808d-1.

The day may well come when we wish to spread our wings and join our more knowledgeable brothers and sisters in flying out into those exotic lands, and ascending those great heights, and if and when that happens, we can be sure that there will be even more newerbetterfasterbigger devices that hook onto the other one, KR808d-1, and everything else.

But for now, our simple and immediate goal is to begin using e-cigarettes and thus reducing the number of tobacco ones we consume.

We each have the option of learning as much or as little as we like about all the different devices while we're

a) smoking a tobacco cigarette,
b) reading about and/or fiddling with parts of mysterious things we don't understand, or
c) happily puffing on our KR808d-1 electric hookah-doodle.

I just happen to think c is the wisest choice.

Hey, I'm as old and decrepit as they come, but unlike you, I understand all that technical folderol just fine and enjoy full cognitive function, fine finger motions, and excellent vision, 24/7.

My Significant Other is already using the other one, making juice, and is willing to fill my cartomizers with it, and while I've got no problem with starting off with a KR808d-1, I don't give a politicianfart what color it is, whether it has a jewel on the end that lights up, or even if my electric cigarette case isn't leopard.


Though in the neonatal stage of its infancy, the e-cigarette industry is so ready for you with the e-smoking superstore! This is the other smartest business model I've seen, poking around the vendors.

Good Prophets is a good example. They have an extensive range of products for various flavors of e-cigarettes - including KR808d-1.

As more families begin using e-cigarettes, even if they like different ones, they can buy supplies for everybody at one single store, thus saving time, annoyance and shipping charges!

If you catch on to things like machinery quickly and enjoy tinkering, you're going to have a blast in the superstore!

Full Disclosure: Although I've never been a customer, Good Prophets did do something very kind for me, and I put a link to them in my signature, but they have no idea I'm writing this (and I'd be surprised if they even know about the signature).

Anyway, don't take my word for it. Their website is there for you to visit and confirm that they do indeed lean toward the superstore model, and their subforum, and the rest of the forum as well, are there for you to read all the nice things people say about them.

To my knowledge, Vapor 4 Life is unaware of my existence, so they have no idea I'm writing this either, and their website, their subforum, and the rest of the forum, are also there for you to visit, read, lather, rinse, repeat.

On a forum with roughly ten thousand active members who are, as a rule, not exactly shy about expressing their opinions and recounting their shopping experiences, good, bad and middling, you'd be hard pressed to find anything but glowing praise and pourings-out of props for both Vapor 4 Life and Good Prophets. No company could obtain, or even dream of getting, a better advertisement than that.

At some point, I'll have some more to say about e-cigarette vendors and this newborn industry in general, but for now, I'll just point out that at this time, as a cursory google will attest, scam artists and snake oil salesoaves outnumber honest, ethical and legitimate e-cigarette businesses probably by around 7.3 squillion to 1.

In addition to all the other things it is, ECF also serves as a sort of Safe Harbor for consumers.

We can, with serene hearts, give our custom to the merchants in the "Forum Suppliers" section, as well as those who are "registered suppliers."

When you read the rules, you'll have noticed that there's an entire separate book-length section of them, specifically for merchants of all kinds, and if you're like me, since you're not one, you skipped over it, so I'm not clear on the exact hierarchy of it all, but I'm clear on this: not only does ECF refuse to admit scam artists and companies that engage in shady business practices, the first thing you'll see in the New Members forum, in the "stickies" on top of the page, are warnings about this kind of thing.

We also enjoy the benefits of "regulation" by vox populi. Practically any time a vendor does so much as send out the wrong flavor by mistake or gets behind in shipping out orders, the impacted consumers will post about it, early, often, and loudly, and all applicable deities help anymerchant who might be tempted to stray over into anything even remotely shady-adjacent.

This really is a different kind of internet community.

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