When Non-Smokers Vaper There's Fire.

One of the more debated subjects I've seen in the vaping world is how to react to non-smokers who want to vape. The most common of these appear to be social smokers who want to enjoy smoking, but don't want to risk getting addicted to cigarettes or to do something that's so bad for them as smoking. People seem divided on if we should help them or discourage them completely, and there are valid reasons for both sides. I though I might share my thoughts on this today.

I personally too am a bit divided on this, there are a lot of downsides to an increasing number of non-smokers picking up vaping, but we might be able to do something about that if we try.

One of the biggest of which is how do you keep these social vapers from picking up something with nic in it and ending up addicted because they don't know what's in their hand(yes we all know by now that nicotine is not nearly as bad for you as so many claim, but still it is addictive). Sure we all can advise them to grab zero nic, even get them some 0 cartos, but what about all those gas station disposables out there? How many people are gong to just grab one of those on their way out to the bar for a night of fun? Clearly we can not be the worlds white night wearing shining vapor armor to protect every damn fool who picks up an e-cig because they think they are cool or totally risk free. However we can by being willing to advise our friends or even curious strangers, help reduce the number a bit. If we come out as too strongly against it and tell these people they are crazy, many of these people will go ahead and do it anyway (what did they tell you about smoking all those years ago?). A more even handed approach, where we tell them that vaping is a better choice then smoking, but we don't know what 20, 30, 50 years of vaping will really do, might be our better option here.

The next big concern and a valid one it is, is what will those ANTZ and their pocket lobbyist do when there are more people who pick up an e-cig that have never been smokers? The answer to this one is pretty clear. They will use it as a way to label vaping as an addictive and growing problem. They will say it is targeting new customers, kids, baby elephants, the whole nine yards. Well if they have not already turned this into a big part of the argument, they will (If we are talking about it, they are bribing about it).

Our best plan of action I think is not going to be to deny this is happening, but to shine a light on what vaping is compared to smoking. There is not a credible strip of evidence that counters that vaping is much safer then smoking. The average "avoids 4000 chemicals" is posted even in negative articles more often then not, and the "we don't know what's in it" argument is easily blasted out of the window by anybody with the ability to google. This does not even include the dozens of studies out there that are showing that vaping may be a no worse habit then drinking coffee (at least with what we can know at this point). We know what that these are safer then cigarettes and have a pretty good idea of why someone takes up smoking in the first place.

If you are an adult who really wants the smoking experience for whatever reason you tell yourself, you are going to find a way to get it. I would rather see a new vaper then a new smoker any day of the week. If the FDA, ANTZ, BP, BT or any of their payed off "scientist" can actually scientifically argue the opposite I will stand on my head and sing a Wagnerian opera, while eating my own hat (between acts of course).

New vapers that were not smokers to start is something that is going to happen. It does not matter if you like it or not, but with ANTZ and the FDA watchdogs out there, it's going to effect us all. We are better off finding ways to deal with it that will best benefit us all, including these non-smoker vapers, then letting the laws write themselves while we are busy arguing about it.

That's just my thoughts on it.
Thanks.

Comments

I liked this post. There are almost two separate things here, I think: reaction if face to face with a non-smoker wanting information on starting to vape and how the vaping community is going to respond if this becomes an issue for those wanting to ban vaping.

from a personal standpoint, if the person could not be talked out of doing it (although I cannot imagine why anyone would pick vaping up as a social activity if they never smoked) then my position would be that I would have to help so they don't end up getting their information from the retail store clerk in the shop down the street who was hired last month and does not even know where the stock is. I can just imagine the mis-information they are liable to be served with especially when a clerk sees a sale.

After reading this, before responding I was at my local retail store and asked the owner what he does if a non-smoker comes in to get started with vaping. He said its not a question he asks so has no way to know if he is selling to a smoker or not - unless it was a customer that bought analogs from him. I know that is just one instance but it points out to me that at least one place in town is not going to try and talk a non-smoker out of vaping and is as likely to sell juice with nicotine as they are with 0% - because they don't ask. Even if at the first juice selection time (after hardware etc is decided on) if they do ask how many packs the person smoked to advise on nic % and find out they are a non-smoker I doubt they will throw away a sale by convincing a non-smoker not to take up vaping. They may get started with 0 nic but from then on there is really no way to control a person from trying nic - or just being accepted of it if a flavor they really want badly is only available with nic in it.

As a community education that comes out of community should nt only educate the public about smokers turning to vaping and better off for it - and there is no second hand risk because its vapor nt smoke - education to the public should also include that its not something a non-smoker should start. Tends to take the wind out of political sails when who they think they will have an argument from agrees with them. Its easier to insist that education be the primary deterrant then writing something into the law to protect a non-smoker. The other thing the community should address is to have a good idea of just how often - if at all - a non smoker takes up vaping. The idea that vaping will entice people into the act of smoking - even if it is its vaping is the same as the thinking that legalizing pot will cause more people to start using pot. With pot being illegal before hand its hard to get the stats on how many would start smoking pot that did not just due to the law. With the change in the law your most likely to get the answer from ne pot smokers that they would not use pot if it was illegal which skews the stats as that is not the same as whether it being legal gave them the idea to try or not r whether they were already to try either way - just safer now with the change in laws.

Right now the community has the chance to do the research and find out how many non-smokers are vaping and how/why they started. The numbers might tell us that what the politicians are saying is not happening - it could give numbers showing where those that were going to take up/experimenting with cigarettes and instead made a safer choice to vape when they were going to smoke either way. I think that having the true numbers while the powers that be are dreaming up what they think will happen is the best way to be prepared.
 
I liked this post aswell...
i rather have smokers quit smoking by vaping and people that are non-smokers start vaping rather than smoking a real cigarette...
those are my thoughts on the subject...
 

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