Lessons Learned: VV versus VW

When I first got my Innokin Itaste MVP II a month or so back, and you can believe this or not, I didn't get it for the VV/VW features. Honestly, I didn't even know that it had a screen on it until the clerk at the brick and mortar showed the thing off to me. The reason that I got the MVP 2 in the first place, was for its (obviously) longer battery life, versus the EVOD that I had started out with.

At first I was kind of turned off by the whole Big Box Mod in my hand. But, I have large paws, and after a few days I found my grip. But... there was another problem. Lack of consistency in my vaping experience.

With my Evod, all I did was fill my tank, screw it on, make sure the battery was charged. It was pretty much a mindless experience. This is what I call "virgin vaping". I was vaping purely for the sake of doing something other than smoking. So, when I got my MVP, I didn't realize just what I had stumbled into.

As time has went on I've tried a load of different settings with this thing. I've also tried using coils with differing resistances. If anything, just having this MVP, trying to get the vape just right, is what has led to me even joining the ECF forum in the first place. I kept having all of these issues coming up, and in particular, it seemed like I was frying the juices in the tank all too often.

I should have done more research. But sometimes, on rare occasions, I do jump right into something without thinking about it. I couldn't even figure out that setting the voltage, versus the wattage, were two totally different things, designed for thier own special purposes.

As I've studied more and more on this whole vaping thing, I've come to a lot of differing conclusion. For me, the jury is still out on a great number of things. But, I finally did get at least one question resolved to my satisfaction, and that was VV versus VW.

As it turns out, and like many users on the forum will no doubt say (and some have said), you don't adjust both. You pick either your volts, or your wattage. The battery's little computer does the rest to try and give you the most consistent vape from your coil and your tank. So... I'm finally finding the sweet spot after all this time. My juices are still a bit on the cold side, but I suspect this will change when I switch to a cartotank with a lower ohms cartridge in the center.

For right now I'm not even fiddling with the settings anymore. I've set my MVP to 8.0 watts, and I'm not even fooling with the voltage. Anything higher than 8.0 watts seems to fry the juice, and on rare occasions I have to back it down to 7.0, at least till my new coils get broken into the new juice.

Having figured all of that now, I'm firmly beginning to believe that I dislike the Pro-Tank II. I just haven't enjoyed vaping as much as i first did with the eGo MT3s plasto tank that I started with. Have incidentally tried that on my MVP, and it works okay.

But really, I'm wanting a warmer vape, a bit more cloud. And I don't think that I'm gonna get what I'm wanting from the likes of this PT. Could be that I'm just progressing in my finickiness as I get more and more used to vaping. But, like the more advanced vapers out there, I want the best experience that I can get.

So, the tank is the next focus. From all that I've read on this forum, and on the advice of a friend or two, I'll be looking into the carto tank as my next upgrade. Not anything overly expensive, certainly not a DIY type of thing. Maybe something from IBTanked (so I can fiddle with my Thingy), or maybe something as simple as the SmokTek 510 Pro DC, just to get me started.

Beyond this, I also think that my juice is part of the problem too. I've only tried one brand, versus the homebrew of a local mixologist. Both are vastly different from one another, and I'm still not getting what I want out of the juice.

One last thing of note: I've went back to the stock metal tip on my PT. Although I hated the aftertaste of metal, I've also found some disadvantages from using plastic tips. Mainly that they tend to absorb the flavor of the juice, which leads to weird tastes after switching flavors. Since I've started getting more aggressive at keeping my tank cleaned out (like boiling in a water and vinegar solution), I've noticed that the aftertaste isn't as much of an issue, and there is no transfer of previous flavors.

For the moment, I'm running my coils in the 2.2-2.9 ohms range. Seems to work better for those long pulls that I like. But, I'm going to be giving lower ohms another try as well, now that I've figured out my power settings.

If you read this, and you have questions or just general observations and advice to add, by all means feel free to comment.

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Hi George,

I have several protanks. ver 1 and ver 2. Might I suggest you look into rebuilding your protank heads. I purchased around 30 2.2 ohm protank heads and am now rebuilding the coils. this way I can make them 1.5 ohm or 2.2 ohm or what ever I want them to be. I also am using organic cotton as my wick. The flavor is so much better than silica wick (what you get in a protank coil).

Don't go to carto tanks. In my opinion that is taking a step back, unless you just want to experience carto tanks for yourself. You will get better flavor and vapor from your protank 2 using a micro coil and cotton as your wick. Up to you.

Let me give you a few links to some people that have videos on YouTube that show how to rebuild a coil on your protank 2 and make great coils.

Take care and keep on vaping :)

Grimm Green: LET'S REBUILD A KANGER PROTANK 2013 - YouTube

Rip Trippers: Nano Micro Coil build for Kanger Protank 2 - YouTube

If you have any questions feel free to give me a holler.

Lexxon
 
Lexxon, first of all let me say... I really dig the Mr. Spock avatar. I used to be into Star Trek in a really big way. Was one of the shows that inspired me when I was younger. More of a TNG fan than of the original series. But ya can't not like Spock.

Have thought about learning how to rebuild coils as a sort of next step in my progression of vaping. I'll at least watch the videos now that I have some direction from the links you provided. But I'll tell you right now that I'm not good with my hands. I've been very leary about stepping onto that side of the vaping world, least until I get my facts straight. I'm not one of those that likes to do things without some sort of research at the very least. Of course, there is something to be said for raw experimentation!

Will definitely watch the links though. Who knows? Could be the next big thing for me.

Peace and Long Life

EDIT: Okay... watched Rip Tripper rebuild a PT II into a nanocoil. I am sold. And it puts into perspective something else that I've been thinking on... that my battery is just not powerful enough for what I'm looking for. Can I really get that kind of vapor production from an Itaste MVP II? Hell, I can only go to 11.0 watts. Was burning juice at 8.5 most days. At least with the cartotank I can go all the way to 11 and not burn it at all.
I gotta get me one of those sweet batteries. Learn how to rebuild for lower ohms.
 

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