This is a two part blog, Click the link at the end and it will take you to the next part...
Foreword:
I work for an international company. vaping in our offices has become an issue. This lead to a meeting of all the department heads across the world.
Our departments have no contact with each other normally and do not even work in the same arena most of the time, so a bunch of power mongering individuals in a room fighting about something no one really knows squat about got way out of hand. BONKERS
The argument stopped being about whether we could vape in house or not and started to be about the safety of the product. With several nudges that we are not the FDA, it was decided that each department head could make its own choice and post it clearly for all employees to see. Alright resolved.
NOPE: I went on to the company forums and it is an all out war today. Absolute war. I have never in my life heard such propaganda from both sides of the argument. I couldn't believe it. So today I posted this as a pro vaper... if I am not fired later I hope it hits home.
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I am a ranter and a raver. I point fingers and I name names. I usually do this very quickly when I get a gusto in me. But when it comes to ECIGS and vaping, I have taken my time to carefully consider my stand and thus my delivery of said opinions.
I am not going to say anything that hasn't already been said by hundreds of people, I'm just going to get to hard point in a more direct way. So hunker in and get settled. Grab your favorite juice and get your vape on, because this is what it all vapors down to.
I work in the sciences department you could say. I play in the big leagues, with the big boys, and we make seriously big waves when we work. So I know all about the David and Goliath complex that takes place in the big bad world of politics and corporate giants VS the little new guy on the block. The game of monopoly has been being played since the dawn of Man. There is always some group of people trying to dominate another through resources, intimidation or some not so obscure form of enslavement. Likely with the barbaric tendencies we have not seemed to rid ourselves of and the over powering primal reptilian brain functions, human beings will never stop finding ways to kill, mame, and punish our own.
With that precursor, I will stop drive by shooting at the situation and lay it out clean. We can't say ECIGS are healthier, we can't claim they have no long term health effects or problems, we can't say they can help you quit smoking... hell we can't say anything that pertains to the future. There was a time when cigarettes were seen as having no dangers. There was a time when asbestos was seen as the greatest invention next to slice bread. When you know better you do better.
And that is it right there. When you know better... you do better. That is our claim. As ECIG supporters and users, this should become your mantra. We know better, so we are doing better.
Let's get the dialogue open. We need to put our vape to the test. Research is research and that is the only stone we get to throw at Goliath. Anything else just makes us as bad as the big guy that is stomping on us.
It's true we have less chemicals in our mock up. But can you quantify the safety of all of these chemicals? Stop saying there are only 4... because that's a load of perverted information. There are way more than 4 chemicals in Vapor Juice.
Let's just overlook Vegetable Glycerin altogether and step on over to Propylene Glycol a synthetic compound derived from natural gas. Nope, I am not bagging on PG, but we can not actually say with 100% certainty that any grade of PG is safe to inhale long term. We just can't, even though we know comparatively it will never measure up to the damage that a Cigarette can do. We are in no position to actually say that about VG either. Although scientifically VG is going to test out safer than PG time and time again, there is no guarantee to quantify that yet. Even some asthma inhalers have been recalled over the years due to their carrying agents being in question.
We all know what Nicotine is. Period. We know we shouldn't be consuming it on the level that a smoker wants and additively requires. This is one that is hard to argue. It's common sense. There is years and years and years of research about what large doses of nicotine can do to the tissues within a mammal. That's nicotine alone, not combusted, not burning, just introduced into the mammals system over time in a non naturally occurring amount. So I am not even going to argue this one.
The food flavors we use to flavor our vapors are not single chemical agents. We can't say that there are only four agents in our vapor because food flavoring on their own contain multiple chemical compounds and substances that can not be categorized as one single ingredient. When you break down what goes into a natural or artificial flavor to make it possible any chemist will tell you, it's not one item. With it's intended use we have seen no real ill effects. But we are not using it for its intended use now are we?
Okay so PG, VG, Flavorings and Nicotine. Them's the 4. I know you are already preparing your angry comments... but relax... take another deep vape and let me reign this back in.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/beech/2194-what-all-vapors-down-corporate-melt-down-part-two.html
Foreword:
I work for an international company. vaping in our offices has become an issue. This lead to a meeting of all the department heads across the world.
Our departments have no contact with each other normally and do not even work in the same arena most of the time, so a bunch of power mongering individuals in a room fighting about something no one really knows squat about got way out of hand. BONKERS
The argument stopped being about whether we could vape in house or not and started to be about the safety of the product. With several nudges that we are not the FDA, it was decided that each department head could make its own choice and post it clearly for all employees to see. Alright resolved.
NOPE: I went on to the company forums and it is an all out war today. Absolute war. I have never in my life heard such propaganda from both sides of the argument. I couldn't believe it. So today I posted this as a pro vaper... if I am not fired later I hope it hits home.
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
I am a ranter and a raver. I point fingers and I name names. I usually do this very quickly when I get a gusto in me. But when it comes to ECIGS and vaping, I have taken my time to carefully consider my stand and thus my delivery of said opinions.
I am not going to say anything that hasn't already been said by hundreds of people, I'm just going to get to hard point in a more direct way. So hunker in and get settled. Grab your favorite juice and get your vape on, because this is what it all vapors down to.
I work in the sciences department you could say. I play in the big leagues, with the big boys, and we make seriously big waves when we work. So I know all about the David and Goliath complex that takes place in the big bad world of politics and corporate giants VS the little new guy on the block. The game of monopoly has been being played since the dawn of Man. There is always some group of people trying to dominate another through resources, intimidation or some not so obscure form of enslavement. Likely with the barbaric tendencies we have not seemed to rid ourselves of and the over powering primal reptilian brain functions, human beings will never stop finding ways to kill, mame, and punish our own.
With that precursor, I will stop drive by shooting at the situation and lay it out clean. We can't say ECIGS are healthier, we can't claim they have no long term health effects or problems, we can't say they can help you quit smoking... hell we can't say anything that pertains to the future. There was a time when cigarettes were seen as having no dangers. There was a time when asbestos was seen as the greatest invention next to slice bread. When you know better you do better.
And that is it right there. When you know better... you do better. That is our claim. As ECIG supporters and users, this should become your mantra. We know better, so we are doing better.
Let's get the dialogue open. We need to put our vape to the test. Research is research and that is the only stone we get to throw at Goliath. Anything else just makes us as bad as the big guy that is stomping on us.
It's true we have less chemicals in our mock up. But can you quantify the safety of all of these chemicals? Stop saying there are only 4... because that's a load of perverted information. There are way more than 4 chemicals in Vapor Juice.
Let's just overlook Vegetable Glycerin altogether and step on over to Propylene Glycol a synthetic compound derived from natural gas. Nope, I am not bagging on PG, but we can not actually say with 100% certainty that any grade of PG is safe to inhale long term. We just can't, even though we know comparatively it will never measure up to the damage that a Cigarette can do. We are in no position to actually say that about VG either. Although scientifically VG is going to test out safer than PG time and time again, there is no guarantee to quantify that yet. Even some asthma inhalers have been recalled over the years due to their carrying agents being in question.
We all know what Nicotine is. Period. We know we shouldn't be consuming it on the level that a smoker wants and additively requires. This is one that is hard to argue. It's common sense. There is years and years and years of research about what large doses of nicotine can do to the tissues within a mammal. That's nicotine alone, not combusted, not burning, just introduced into the mammals system over time in a non naturally occurring amount. So I am not even going to argue this one.
The food flavors we use to flavor our vapors are not single chemical agents. We can't say that there are only four agents in our vapor because food flavoring on their own contain multiple chemical compounds and substances that can not be categorized as one single ingredient. When you break down what goes into a natural or artificial flavor to make it possible any chemist will tell you, it's not one item. With it's intended use we have seen no real ill effects. But we are not using it for its intended use now are we?
Okay so PG, VG, Flavorings and Nicotine. Them's the 4. I know you are already preparing your angry comments... but relax... take another deep vape and let me reign this back in.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/beech/2194-what-all-vapors-down-corporate-melt-down-part-two.html
