Batteries for VGOD Elite extrem sub Ohm
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Neither!
.08Ω is too low for a mech.
Please use a 3 or 4 battery regulated mod if you NEED to vape at 200 watts.
cheers
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Neither!
.08Ω is too low for a mech.
Please use a 3 or 4 battery regulated mod if you NEED to vape at 200 watts.
cheers
I
I agree totally with Izan. 
0.1 ohm draws 42 amps from a battery. Since the highest continuous discharge rated batteries available
are only 30 amps continuous, that means you are 12 amps over the batteries limit. To find out what current (amps) the coil will pull from the battery in a mechanical mod, you use an Ohms Law Calculator.
1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw
0.0 ohms = dead short = battery goes into thermal runaway
Everyone is free to set their own safety parameters, and I can only say what mine are. This community only uses the continuous discharge rating for batteries.
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There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!
0.1 ohm draws 42 amps from a battery. Since the highest continuous discharge rated batteries available
are only 30 amps continuous, that means you are 12 amps over the batteries limit. To find out what current (amps) the coil will pull from the battery in a mechanical mod, you use an Ohms Law Calculator.
1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw
0.0 ohms = dead short = battery goes into thermal runaway
Everyone is free to set their own safety parameters, and I can only say what mine are. This community only uses the continuous discharge rating for batteries.
Battery Amp Ratings: Continuous vs Pulse Ratings
Battery pulse ratings are useless! | E-Cigarette Forum
There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!
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I know all that stuff.I agree totally with Izan.
0.1 ohm draws 42 amps from a battery. Since the highest continuous discharge rated batteries available
are only 30 amps continuous, that means you are 12 amps over the batteries limit. To find out what current (amps) the coil will pull from the battery in a mechanical mod, you use an Ohms Law Calculator.
1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw
0.0 ohms = dead short = battery goes into thermal runaway
Everyone is free to set their own safety parameters, and I can only say what mine are. This community only uses the continuous discharge rating for batteries.
Battery Amp Ratings: Continuous vs Pulse Ratings
Battery pulse ratings are useless! | E-Cigarette Forum
There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!
But can I use any Battery for my application? Or not?
Not at that resistance. That would be battery abuse and you would be setting yourself up for a battery explosion.
You say that "I know all that stuff". Yet you ask could you use any battery for your application. No, not SAFELY with a mechanical mod. If you wish to use a 1.0 ohm coil, use a regulated mod designed to fire that low of resistance. A mech mod can't do it safely.
The two most important things to know when rebuilding coils is to know the amp limit of the battery you have and to know the measured resistance of your coil.
I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v) in a mech. The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, your 30A battery may only be a 15A battery.
If you're going to use a mech mod, you have to be able to calculate how many amps you are going to ask your battery to safely provide. Then you have to look at what the "continuous" amp rating is for the battery.
So if you battery is rated at 20 amps continuous discharge, you should not build anything that requires the battery to provide more than about 18 Amps. You should ALWAYS leave a little "headroom" or safety margin.
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If you know all that "stuff" , why are you asking us.
The build is too low for a single battery mod. Its that simple.
You get the answer we give here, pal, take it or leave it. Like Baditude said, set your own parameters for safety. What's the point of asking advice if you "know all this stuff" and just ignore the answer given?
The VGOD, man. It's always the VGOD.
The VGOD, man. It's always the VGOD.
Cause maybe it is working, even with VTC5a or something else. Every site I look at says something different about the rating of batteries.
I dont have any practice, but maybe someone of you has it.
Btw. Could be that they get a little hot or something. Thats what I wanted to know.
Could be they get a little hot, could be that any minor slip sees it venting in your face. CAN you get away with it? Sure. Should you? IMO, absolutely not.
"Hold my beer and watch this"
No, not safely.
Every time you fire that build with a single cell you are damaging the battery.
There is no single cell 18650 that can handle that discharge rate.
Know your gear.
Vape safe.
Even though it works, it might not one day. Have you ever seen the "Splode" commercial? One day you might have a can of Splode in your hand and wind up on the news.
All I'm saying is don't
do it!Learn to make your own coils, practice, its not hard!
I'm a girl and I make all my coils! And I use mech mods!
OkayEven though it works, it might not one day. Have you ever seen the "Splode" commercial? One day you might have a can of Splode in your hand and wind up on the news.
All I'm saying is don't
Learn to make your own coils, practice, its not hard!
I'm a girl and I make all my coils! And I use mech mods!
That's what I wanted to know. Thanks
Btw. The news bunch everyrhing up, so I wont count on em...
Obviously you are new to vaping. Or at least new to mechanical mods and sub-ohm vaping. Swallow some pride and educate yourself before you lose your face (literally).
Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations for a Mechanical Mod
- As simple as it is to use, some people have a tough time grasping the concept.
- Covers the differences between a mechanical vs. regulated mod, essential safety accessories, optional safety accessories to add layers of safety to your mech, routine maintanance, use of proper batteries, proper ventilation, low resistance vaping, and faux hybrid mods.
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Just curious, is there a reason you want to build so low? Plenty of regulated mods and multi-battery mechanical mods out there which would allow you to build lower and stay within your battery's ratings.
Then definitely consider another mod for that purpose. Parallel mechanical mods with 2+ batteries will allow you to build lower due to sharing the load, and with a regulated mod, you just need to make sure you have enough cells to reach your intended wattage.
At a resistance that low, assuming you really do want 200+ watts, you're gonna need to look into quad(!) battery mods, IMO. (Making a broad assumption you want more than a few draws before having to swap batteries)
At a resistance that low, assuming you really do want 200+ watts, you're gonna need to look into quad(!) battery mods, IMO. (Making a broad assumption you want more than a few draws before having to swap batteries)
Curiosity killed the cat.
Using .08Ω on a single cell mechanical is just flat dangerous to you and those around you.
You use the full charged voltage (4.2v) when calculating amp draw for a mechanical as a 'built in' safety measure.
Considering there is only one safety feature when using a mechanical (the one between the users ears) ignoring or attempting to reason away basic battery safety is unwise.
There are no single 18650 cells that will support .08Ω safely, none, zip, zilch, zero, nada.
4.2v / .08Ω = 52.5a
3v / .08Ω = 37.5a
At that resistance every time you press the fire button you are damaging the cell internally.
As batteries are used & age they lose capacity, the harder they're pushed the faster degradation takes place.
Using .08Ω on a single cell mechanical is just flat dangerous to you and those around you.
You use the full charged voltage (4.2v) when calculating amp draw for a mechanical as a 'built in' safety measure.
Considering there is only one safety feature when using a mechanical (the one between the users ears) ignoring or attempting to reason away basic battery safety is unwise.
There are no single 18650 cells that will support .08Ω safely, none, zip, zilch, zero, nada.
4.2v / .08Ω = 52.5a
3v / .08Ω = 37.5a
At that resistance every time you press the fire button you are damaging the cell internally.
As batteries are used & age they lose capacity, the harder they're pushed the faster degradation takes place.
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