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USP grade, sure. Food grade is typically USP grade. They're claiming 99.7% pure which would meet USP standard. I'd be happier seeing USP right on the label than only in the description on Amazon. I think you're fine, but I'm sure others will weigh in as well. Then go with the consensus.
Well now I have 1/2 gal of it cuz amazon saying it's usp
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I really like this I got from amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Glycerin-Veg...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=E0SPKTSVASEXNXSN6C3G
https://www.amazon.com/Glycerin-Veg...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=E0SPKTSVASEXNXSN6C3G
Whew! That was fast! You post asking if it's OK to use it, get 1 response that advises you to wait for a consensus, and then you buy it...all within 7 minutes. Not much time for other people to find your post and respond. 
Your pic of the enlarged label says FOOD GRADE! I wouldn't vape it, and I personally don't know anyone who would.
I get all mine from Bulk Apothecary for about $9.85/gallon when they have a sale. I get 2 gallons and S/H from them in OH to me in FL is about $14. So...2 whole gallons + S/H = $33.70. That's just $8.43 per 1/2 gallon delivered to my door.
Your pic of the enlarged label says FOOD GRADE! I wouldn't vape it, and I personally don't know anyone who would.
I get all mine from Bulk Apothecary for about $9.85/gallon when they have a sale. I get 2 gallons and S/H from them in OH to me in FL is about $14. So...2 whole gallons + S/H = $33.70. That's just $8.43 per 1/2 gallon delivered to my door.
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Whew! That was fast! You post asking if it's OK to use it, get 1 response that advises you to wait for a consensus, and then you buy it...all within 7 minutes. Not much time for other people to find your post and respond.
Your pic of the enlarged label says FOOD GRADE! I wouldn't vape it, and I personally don't know anyone who would.
I get all mine from Bulk Apothecary for about $9.85/gallon when they have a sale. I get 2 gallons and S/H from them in OH to me in FL is about $14. So...2 whole gallons + S/H = $33.70. That's just $8.43 per 1/2 gallon delivered to my door.
Already got it
Came in the mail today I'm asking cuz I don't see usp on it. But amazon said it was when I ordered it
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Well...that's different then. Thought from your post you meant you'd just ordered it already in that short amount of time.
IMO, I wouldn't care what Amazon "said" it was...if the product itself isn't plainly labeled as being USP, nope...no way I'd vape it. Any chemical company that makes a product meeting USP requirements will plainly label it to show that, as it's a guarantee to buyers that it has met rigid standards!
IMO, I wouldn't care what Amazon "said" it was...if the product itself isn't plainly labeled as being USP, nope...no way I'd vape it. Any chemical company that makes a product meeting USP requirements will plainly label it to show that, as it's a guarantee to buyers that it has met rigid standards!
I'd contact Amazon and let them know that the description says USP and the product you received says Food Grade. Request a Return Merchandise Authorization number and pick a supplier that shows a label stating USP grade.
Amazon will issue an RMA number and take it back and deal with the supplier. Amazon is pretty rigid about truth in advertising.
Amazon will issue an RMA number and take it back and deal with the supplier. Amazon is pretty rigid about truth in advertising.
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Yeah... I'd be passing on that one too. A search of the website listed on the label doesn't even show a vegetable glycerin (or glycerin vegetable), or provide any hits when entered into the search. They appear to be focused on pond water maintenance and that does not scream "inhalation safe" to me.
I like @DaveP's suggestion of reporting it to Amazon and going a different direction.
I also second @JCinFLA's recommendation for Bulk Apothecary; they are all I have used for the last two years!
I like @DaveP's suggestion of reporting it to Amazon and going a different direction.
I also second @JCinFLA's recommendation for Bulk Apothecary; they are all I have used for the last two years!
It appears they're taking a USP grade product and re-bottling it with a Food Grade label. I'd stay far, far away from this one as there's no guarantee that the product is exactly the same as when it left the manufacturer.
Whew! That was fast! You post asking if it's OK to use it, get 1 response that advises you to wait for a consensus, and then you buy it...all within 7 minutes. Not much time for other people to find your post and respond.
Your pic of the enlarged label says FOOD GRADE! I wouldn't vape it, and I personally don't know anyone who would.
I get all mine from Bulk Apothecary for about $9.85/gallon when they have a sale. I get 2 gallons and S/H from them in OH to me in FL is about $14. So...2 whole gallons + S/H = $33.70. That's just $8.43 per 1/2 gallon delivered to my door.
I still have a quart each of PG and VG from Essential Depot that I got from Amazon, but as we discussed a while ago I'm ordering from Bulk Apothecary as soon as I open the last two I have.
I'd use it Some vendors catering to "regular" people prefer writing food-grade as that appeals to the masses more than USP which most don't know the meaning off(I saw a youtube video once where one asked another what brand he used and he stated he believed it was from USP, lol).
If going for products listing only USP clearly, then I respect that, but then I would also dismiss ED and almost every other known brand we use as they don't follow general USP guidelines of labeling the product as monograph name with a USP suffix i.e. "Glycerin, USP" as main title.
In the end, the people rebottling these big USP certified drums for general usage, sell most of it to people that respect(or know) food-grade much more than USP.
There's one thing though also, and that is if the rebottler doesn't have an ISO-7 or 8 cleanroom to rebottle in, then they cannot call it USP, but back to my previous notices, then the brands marking there products with such notions doesn't even follow the propper guidelines anyways, so how much faith to put in that?
As said, it's a 99.7% USP product, rebottled by another vendor, like all the other brands we use(ED, etc), and we don't know the actual rebottling practices from any of these ventures...
(Btw, I've mailed ED previously if they use an ISO 7 or 8 cleanroom for there rebottling, but gotten no answer, though they answered several other inquries of mine...)
In my times i've used so many VGs to test them out, and all where from USP sources, but where labeled either foodgrade+usp, usp, foodgrade or just glycerin. If the bottle/site didn't listed USP, then I mailed them for a USP certificate of original drum. However, I understand that you good folks in the states have so cheap and good options available which lists USP additionally, so I understand that you don't need to "venture out into the wildeness" like others to find the best and most affordable product.
Some vendors catering to "regular" people prefer writing food-grade as that appeals to the masses more than USP which most don't know the meaning off(I saw a youtube video once where one asked another what brand he used and he stated he believed it was from USP, lol).If going for products listing only USP clearly, then I respect that, but then I would also dismiss ED and almost every other known brand we use as they don't follow general USP guidelines of labeling the product as monograph name with a USP suffix i.e. "Glycerin, USP" as main title.
In the end, the people rebottling these big USP certified drums for general usage, sell most of it to people that respect(or know) food-grade much more than USP.
There's one thing though also, and that is if the rebottler doesn't have an ISO-7 or 8 cleanroom to rebottle in, then they cannot call it USP, but back to my previous notices, then the brands marking there products with such notions doesn't even follow the propper guidelines anyways, so how much faith to put in that?
As said, it's a 99.7% USP product, rebottled by another vendor, like all the other brands we use(ED, etc), and we don't know the actual rebottling practices from any of these ventures...
(Btw, I've mailed ED previously if they use an ISO 7 or 8 cleanroom for there rebottling, but gotten no answer, though they answered several other inquries of mine...)
In my times i've used so many VGs to test them out, and all where from USP sources, but where labeled either foodgrade+usp, usp, foodgrade or just glycerin. If the bottle/site didn't listed USP, then I mailed them for a USP certificate of original drum. However, I understand that you good folks in the states have so cheap and good options available which lists USP additionally, so I understand that you don't need to "venture out into the wildeness" like others to find the best and most affordable product.
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Good idea, IMO. Did you sign up for their newsletters, so you'll get sale info when they have them? If not, you might want to do that.
Yes, that's an example of what I stated previously That's not a proper USP guide-line recommended labeling, as main title of product isn't 'monograph name, USP' i.e. 'Glycerin, USP', or the USP may be preceding monograph-name, or directly under/over monograph-name, and then the rest yada-yada, underneath that main title.
Note, I didn't state it was recomended by me to use non-USP labeled products or that it was always OK, but just that in this example "I'd use it"(as direct quote ). My personal stance is that if the original product is USP grade, as it is here(99.8% assay from COA posted by OP), and if it's a relatively big professional vendor it's coming from, then I choose to trust it personally, and don't think they will screw up the rebottling, but that's just my own personal opinion and I respect others feeling otherwise of course If the original product where only food-grade, then I wouldn't use it myself
Btw, one place I mailed too, which didn't state USP on bottle, but sent me a USP certificate of original product, stated they used a food-grade certified warehouse for rebottling in a warehouse where other stuff where rebottled like cough-sirup etc with fully proper sanitizing and whatever in check. I believe an ISO 7 or 8 cleanroom is pretty expensive.
A very big nicbase and DIY seller from before 2012 and onwards, nicvape, used to(maybe still?) write on there VG 1L bottles: Rebottled from USP vegetable glycerin(which is the same scenario as the OP here - and means rebottled in non-ISO-7/8 cleanroom, well, in the OP's case it could also be a marketing issue as stated and still a cleanroom used).
I'm about to buy a new gallon of VG myself, from a vendor which doesn't list USP on bottles, only food-grade, even though the original product is USP, and they cater mostly to restaurants, hence the labeling/marketing I believe. I'm gonna buy from them because it's the only place i've found yet in EU which sells vg originating from coconut or coconut/palm, which I've never tried yet(you people can get such from e.g. RTS which rebottles ecocerol, a brand from ecogreen oleo' in indonisia, like e.g. mascerol which is the brand-name from musim-mas also from indonisia though just using palm I believe. Btw, ecogreen doesn't list they use coconuts on there site, but i'm taking randy's word for it...) Edit: Oh, I remembered wrong and confused the bottle-screenshot from another vendor I speculated about trying also, and so this new vendor actually also lists USP on bottles, sorry, though not important, and sorry for blabbing on so much, lol.
That's not a proper USP guide-line recommended labeling, as main title of product isn't 'monograph name, USP' i.e. 'Glycerin, USP', or the USP may be preceding monograph-name, or directly under/over monograph-name, and then the rest yada-yada, underneath that main title.Note, I didn't state it was recomended by me to use non-USP labeled products or that it was always OK, but just that in this example "I'd use it"(as direct quote
). My personal stance is that if the original product is USP grade, as it is here(99.8% assay from COA posted by OP), and if it's a relatively big professional vendor it's coming from, then I choose to trust it personally, and don't think they will screw up the rebottling, but that's just my own personal opinion and I respect others feeling otherwise of course If the original product where only food-grade, then I wouldn't use it myself Btw, one place I mailed too, which didn't state USP on bottle, but sent me a USP certificate of original product, stated they used a food-grade certified warehouse for rebottling in a warehouse where other stuff where rebottled like cough-sirup etc with fully proper sanitizing and whatever in check. I believe an ISO 7 or 8 cleanroom is pretty expensive.
A very big nicbase and DIY seller from before 2012 and onwards, nicvape, used to(maybe still?) write on there VG 1L bottles: Rebottled from USP vegetable glycerin(which is the same scenario as the OP here - and means rebottled in non-ISO-7/8 cleanroom, well, in the OP's case it could also be a marketing issue as stated and still a cleanroom used).
I'm about to buy a new gallon of VG myself, from a vendor which doesn't list USP on bottles, only food-grade, even though the original product is USP, and they cater mostly to restaurants, hence the labeling/marketing I believe. I'm gonna buy from them because it's the only place i've found yet in EU which sells vg originating from coconut or coconut/palm, which I've never tried yet(you people can get such from e.g. RTS which rebottles ecocerol, a brand from ecogreen oleo' in indonisia, like e.g. mascerol which is the brand-name from musim-mas also from indonisia though just using palm I believe. Btw, ecogreen doesn't list they use coconuts on there site, but i'm taking randy's word for it...) Edit: Oh, I remembered wrong and confused the bottle-screenshot from another vendor I speculated about trying also, and so this new vendor actually also lists USP on bottles, sorry, though not important, and sorry for blabbing on so much, lol.
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