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[nostradadus]

they are not the same Medicine Flower ABS is Nicotiana tabacum, and the Wing Seed is Nicotaina rustica 2 very different plants.

Thanks for the heads up! As they say, never assume! I see after reading up a bit on the two plants, the Rustica has quite a bit more nicotine associated with it than the tabacum. Good to know.

I imagine the taste between the two plants are somewhat different as well. I'm currently searching for a review on the taste of MF as opposed to the WS. If you known of any reviews to read, please let me know. So far, I've found nothing on a MF ABS review.

 

[Exchaner]

I imagine the taste between the two plants are somewhat different as well. I'm currently searching for a review on the taste of MF as opposed to the WS. If you known of any reviews to read, please let me know. So far, I've found nothing on a MF ABS review.

Rustica has the more potent flavor. It tastes quite different from traditional American tobacco. Tabacum has a Virginia type flavor. Another major difference is the color. Rustica has a greenish tint - indication that it is extracted from unfermented tobacco leaves.

 

[nostradadus]

Rustica has the more potent flavor

Cool! I like a hearty tobacco flavor.

And what's the dilution ratio again? 1ml of Rustica in 10ml of PG/VG? I think I remember reading that in this thread or one like it here on ECF.

 

[nostradadus]

Ner mind....found it!

Per Dannyv45:

Mix 1ml with 4.5ml pga and 4.5ml pg for a 10% solution or in other words 1ml ta to 9ml of a 50/50 mix of pg/pga.

 

[Exchaner]

Correct. That would be your concentrate. Most people use 2% - 5% of that in their final mix.

 

[nostradadus]

Correct. That would be your concentrate. Most people use 2% - 5% of that in their final mix.

All I've got is 151 PGA; any issues using that as the 4.5ml solution?

 

[Exchaner]

All I've got is 151 PGA; any issues using that as the 4.5ml solution?

It will work, but the extra water may cause some separation in your solution. I'd try to minimize the amount of water by reducing the pga to 30% and increasing pg accordingly. That is how I did it with 151 proof. Still got some slight separation but it goes away with shaking.

 

[nostradadus]

minimize the amount of water by reducing the pga

Totally understand; same type of reduction I do when I'm doing a NET batch using all PGA as the solution. I ususally let it evap/reduce down to 25% and add a pg/vg base to the remaining NET to finalize my concentrate.

 

[Exchaner]

same type of reduction I do when I'm doing a NET batch using all PGA as the solution. I ususally let it evap/reduce down to 25% and add a pg/vg base to the remaining NET to finalize my concentrate.

By reducing your pga, I did not mean evaporating it. I meant using less. For example use 30% pga (151 proof), 60% pg, 10% Rustica. That way you will have less water in your solution.

 

[dannyv45]

Speaking of Danny, he's been missing in action lately. I wonder what he is up to.

Still here just busy as heck lately. Been lurking though

 

[nostradadus]

By reducing your pga, I did not mean evaporating it. I meant using less. For example use 30% pga (151 proof), 60% pg, 10% Rustica. That way you will have less water in your solution.

Gotcha!

 

[nostradadus]

Anybody ever use "Sharp Taste" from Inawera?

 

[nostradadus]

If they would of put in the description that it had mint, I would of never bought it. Thanks for sharing the info about it.

Guess I didn't dig back far enough in the thread to see this and other posts concerning the minty quality of the INW Dark Tobacco! Just got some in today from e-aromashop.com and thought, "Wat the Heck?" .....nowhere did I see that there was a "shisha cane mint" quality to this tobacco, in any description, anywhere, until today, in this thread!

Just glad it only cost me $2.28 to find out I don't like this tobacco. Next time, I'll deep search this thread before jumping to purchase a flavor on the "vendor description" of the flavor!

 

[TrikStari]

Considering the number of pages in this thread, I'm sure this has been said before.

I honestly have given up on finding a decent tobacco flavored juice. None of them have gotten it right, and I've tried like 10 of them. The only satisfactory replacement I have found, is switching to "menthol tobacco" flavorings (or just menthol).

This works for me, as I started off as a menthol cigarette smoker. But eventually I got sick of them, and switched to full flavor Marlboro Red 100's. I find that switching to menthol gives me an enjoyable taste, that I don't get sick of.

Also, the menthol has a "cooling" feeling to it. So even when I get a "hot" hit, they still feel somewhat cool.

 

[chopdoc]

Guess I didn't dig back far enough in the thread to see this and other posts concerning the minty quality of the INW Dark Tobacco! Just got some in today from e-aromashop.com and thought, "Wat the Heck?" .....nowhere did I see that there was a "shisha cane mint" quality to this tobacco, in any description, anywhere, until today, in this thread!

Just glad it only cost me $2.28 to find out I don't like this tobacco. Next time, I'll deep search this thread before jumping to purchase a flavor on the "vendor description" of the flavor!

Use Dark Tobacco vary sparingly. One or two drops to 10 ml. It is not a stand alone flavor but when used with a tobacco vape will really enhance the flavor of a tobacco vape.

 

[MsLoud]

How do I not know what PGA is? We talking alcohol? Like 151 rum?
Does it taste like rum if you use it in your mix?
Inquiring minds!

 

[Hans Wermhat]

More like everclear, but some folks use 151 proof rum.

 

[nostradadus]

Use Dark Tobacco vary sparingly. One or two drops to 10 ml. It is not a stand alone flavor but when used with a tobacco vape will really enhance the flavor of a tobacco vape.

It does seem like it would serve greatly to "brighten up" a tobacco mix. I was vaping it as a fresh test batch mix at 3% with little or no steep time. Bad move, I know.

Thx for the tips. It is in the ABS category I believe, so I should use it accordingly.

 

[pufZeppelin]

How do I not know what PGA is?
We talking alcohol? Like 151 rum? Does it taste like rum if you use it in your mix?
Inquiring minds!

PGA

Pure
Grain
Alcohol

 

[aceswired]

It doesn't have to be PGA, or even grain alcohol. Any type of very high proof ethanol will work. So yes, 151 rum will work. That's 75.5% ABV. Might take a little longer than PGA would, but it'll pull the flavor just fine.