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Is PG vapour really deadly harmful and toxic?

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  1. Saw this post on another forum, do you think this is legit? Just did the same experiment on my grass to see. I think he's talking a load of CODSWALLOP, but what do you guys think?????


    All of you please try to stop inhaling that liquid. I sacrifice half of a 10 ml bottle on my grass to see how caustic it is. It ate my grass in 3 days. You can now see a yellow circle the size of an apple exactly where I emptied the bottle. When I tasted a drop on my lips, it burnt a lot. As if I touched the poles of a 9 volt battery. Actually worse than that. I rinsed a lot and switched to another liquid that did not burn. A week later, I got very ill. I can’t describe it. Too embarrassing. It affected my internal organs to the point I saw blood. I won’t go into details. You all go ahead and inhale it. But for those who want to listen, I feel responsible to share my story. It destroys your cells. It changes your DNA sequence. Mutation might show on yourself or your future children. The reason antifreeze fluids for cars have a blue color is to distinguish them from water. If an animal drinks a little antifreeze, it could very much result in the death of an animal. Antifreeze has Propylene Glycol in it. Also, avoid skin lotions with PG in them. The ones without PG do exist and they are more expensive but healthier. At any cost, avoid PG.
    - See more at: Propylene Glycol vs. Vegetable Glycerin E-Liquid | E-Cigarette Reviews and Rankings
     
  2. Ryedan

    Ryedan ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2012
    Ontario, Canada
    I agree it is nasty stuff Shurbet. I've been using it since 2012 and it has been the bain of my existence since then. Really nasty I tell you, really nasty stuff. Even my dog stays away from it ;) and I trust her explicitly in these things.

    Whatever you do, don't use this stuff. It melts lead and copper and it destroys the lawn too. Hate the stuff.

    Vape on :thumb:
     
  3. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    hmmmmmmmmm okayy... nicotine will kill grass in hi enuf doses. Its also used as a "natural" insecticide too. and antifreeze...PG... yup its in it because its safer than ethylene glycol ( the stuff that harms)... altho some people have a sensitivity to PG but it wont kill them at the levels and dose we use it for...
     
  4. Scrotaur

    Scrotaur Full Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    Oakville, CT 06779
    Isn't ethylene glycol that is the bad stuff in antifreeze? I thought PG antifreeze was the non toxic kind. From my experience if the English in the post doesn't quite make sense I ignore the "information". It's also good to read someone else other posts so you know if they're just someone who's spreading misinformation. I don't think the DNA mutation is real either, it still can't be as bad as sunlight.

    I hope my grammar is correct. I talk english good.
     
  5. Scrotaur

    Scrotaur Full Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    Oakville, CT 06779
    I used to work on a golf course taking care of the grounds. Just about anything will kill grass if you get it on there at the right time.
     
  6. Sgt.Rock

    Sgt.Rock Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 13, 2014
    The Poconos
    Spread Olive Oil on the grass and watch it die too.

    Damn near anything that will cling to the grass will kill it after exposure to the sunlight
     
  7. Scrotaur

    Scrotaur Full Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    Oakville, CT 06779
    If you're golfing make sure you apply insect repellent while you're on the green. There will be a greens keeper somewhere who would like to murder you.
     
  8. dchemist

    dchemist Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 3, 2014
    Benton, Arkansas
    Pink antifreeze contains Propylene Glycol. Most people refer to it as RV antifreeze or Marine antifreeze. Wondering why? Let me tell you! It because in RV's it's what you put in your water lines (yes even clean water lines) when winterizing your RV. In boats, you run it through your water pump when winterizing your motor. It's also commonly used to winterize your lines and pump in swimming pools. All this because it's safe to drink, safe for the aquatic life, and safe to swim in.

    Is it safe to Vape? The studies are still out. Based on my own experience, I believe it to be safer then the 20+ cigarettes I was smoking per day.

    Yes I'm still using an S3 'cause I spent all my money on Vaping!
     
  9. oxidus

    oxidus Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2014
    Canada
    To quote the late Bill Hicks:

     
  10. Hahahaha so in summary he's talking out his backside, thought as much
     
  11. Ryedan

    Ryedan ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2012
    Ontario, Canada
    Backside, frontside and sideside ...
     
  12. dchemist

    dchemist Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 3, 2014
    Benton, Arkansas
    Oh my head is spinning! Like a dumb ... I followed the link over to the other thread. The misinformation over there is mind boggling! If the rest of the forum is like that I would suggest considering canceling the membership.

    Yes I'm still using an S3 'cause I spent all my money on Vaping!
     
  13. retic1959

    retic1959 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    What a joke , the whole thing is a shill for the cigalike companies to start off with , look at their rankings , bunch of assclowns running that show , too bad that misinformation like that is hurting people by turning them against vaping .
     
  14. bosun

    bosun Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    My wife spread the pool cover on the lawn to let it dry out in the sun. I found out about it after about a half an hour. I now have an 18 foot diameter yellow crop circle on my lawn. Do not vape pool covers as they kill grass!
    Original post just smells like a deposit left by a troll..
     
  15. dakotabear

    dakotabear Full Member

    Jun 6, 2014
    Upper Midwest
    Isn't PG used in Asthma inhalers and nebulizers?
     
  16. GeorgeWachsmuth

    GeorgeWachsmuth Zen Vaper Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 19, 2014
    Riverhead, NY, USA
    Good thing we're not plants......(I'm trying to refrain from using insulting language)...really getting tired of these kinds of posts...
     
  17. LimitedEdition

    LimitedEdition Full Member

    May 30, 2014
    Elgin, IL, USA
    Propylene glycol is considered generally recognized as safe (GRAS) by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and it is used as a preservative in food.

    Propylene glycol is used as a solvent in many pharmaceuticals, including oral, injectable and topical formulations

    The acute oral toxicity of propylene glycol is very low, and large quantities are required to cause perceptible health damage in humans; propylene glycol is metabolized in the human body into pyruvic acid (a normal part of the glucose-metabolism process, readily converted to energy), acetic acid (handled by ethanol-metabolism), lactic acid (a normal acid generally abundant during digestion),[16] and propionaldehyde (a potentially hazardous substance).

    Serious toxicity generally occurs only at plasma concentrations over 1 g/L, which requires extremely high intake over a relatively short period of time.[20] It would be nearly impossible to reach toxic levels by consuming foods or supplements, which contain at most 1 g/kg of PG. Cases of propylene glycol poisoning are usually related to either inappropriate intravenous administration or accidental ingestion of large quantities by children

    Because of its low chronic oral toxicity, propylene glycol was classified by the U. S. Food and Drug Administration as "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) for use as a direct food additive, including frozen foods such as ice cream and frozen desserts
     
  18. airbrushaddict

    airbrushaddict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    United States
    I think it's funny how some say pg or even vg is oil based. If that was the case. How come the pg or vg doesn't separate with the water that in e-liquid? People are misinformed. Then instead of thinking for their self's and figuring out if what they heard was true. They act like complete idiots and spread these retarded claims.

    Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk
     
  19. dakotabear

    dakotabear Full Member

    Jun 6, 2014
    Upper Midwest
    Theres a few reps in our state legislature that fit that description perfectly when they tried to ban Ecigs in public this year.
     
  20. Someone correct me if I'm wrong... but the glycol that is in antifreeze that is bad is ethylene not propylene... major difference... I think someone has already pointed out the PG used in anti-freeze that is meant for potable water lines, etc....

    Someone had to mean that post as a joke... or least that is where I went when it started talking about DNA mutations... Kinda funny actually if you look at the right way...
     
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