I have the same experience after buying packs of TC and non TC cCells. Terrible and I find it incredibly ironic that they actually advertise no dry hits.
Problem with Vaporesso cCell Coils
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I have the same experience after buying packs of TC and non TC cCells. Terrible and I find it incredibly ironic that they actually advertise no dry hits.
The Ni and SS cCell coils are absolute crap and they should not be able to sell these because they don't work!
However the 0.9 Ohm Kanthal coils are outstanding (apart for one big batch that found it's way onto the market)!
However the 0.9 Ohm Kanthal coils are outstanding (apart for one big batch that found it's way onto the market)!
They wont work correctly in TC mode...the ceramic is heat sinking off from the coil so even thought the coil reaches temp (and corresponding resistance) it shuts down early because the heat is dissipated so fast...In short TC wont work right...but these coils work fine in straight wattage mode just like kanthal so its not a loss..its ceramic anyway so it wont burn unless you go nutz and dry burn for a long time and burn the surrounding cotton on the outside of the ceramic..then its toast
Ive always found them to require priming and repeated false draws to get them wicking right...and then they taste a little funny for an hour or two...by the next day they are broken in and work and taste spectacular..it just isnt instantaneous...different animal then cotton heads
oh..and about 30 watts is the upper limit
Ive always found them to require priming and repeated false draws to get them wicking right...and then they taste a little funny for an hour or two...by the next day they are broken in and work and taste spectacular..it just isnt instantaneous...different animal then cotton heads
oh..and about 30 watts is the upper limit
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I recently started using the ccells & target tank. I did prime the coil with a couple of drops, some false draws, 5 min in and 15W to start (with 1W increases up to 20W in the first 24 hours). This worked well with the kanthal coil. After 4 tanks I started getting less flavor and a bit of bad taste( I use 60vg40pg sweet cherry liquid)
I then removed the tank and tried a dry burn. Small short pulses until no vapor/smoke and reprimed. The coil is burnt. Can't flush the flavor out. I think I think I might have burnt the cotton sleeve. My question is- How do you dry burn the coil without burning the sleeve?
There is a video in this thread about dry burning the ceramic that may help you visualize how the ccell is being cleaned. Granted, the one in the video does not have the thin cotton piece on the outside. I have not had an issue burning the thin cotton piece as I pulse the coil not letting the ceramic get hot enough to burn that thin outer layer of cotton though. The video is in his first post here.
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Better yet, I just found this video showing a dry burn of the cCell. I will add that it takes more than a few drops to prime. I fully saturate (even flood) my coil when priming. The ceramic is very porous. I start at 15W and move up very slowly from there to break it in. Great video on cleaning here.
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Better yet, I just found this video showing a dry burn of the cCell. I will add that it takes more than a few drops to prime. I fully saturate (even flood) my coil when priming. The ceramic is very porous. I start at 15W and move up very slowly from there to break it in. Great video on cleaning here.
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This technique almost directly matches the technique I used to try to clean mine. I didn't rinse it between glows though. Maybe this is the trick although it sounds like you didn't rinse either. My only other thought is that I didn't pulse enough- thus not fully cleaning my coil. I didn't dry burn at 35 watts either. I dry burned around 20W. I will try to dry burn again at 35W before tossing it...and will post my results. If it doesn't work- I will pull the coil apart and see if the cotton sleeve was burnt at all.
Also- I want to note that I have had some very minor leakage from the air feed. It's not an issue for me because I'm using the UD Balrog box (which has a cotton juice ring that catches any leakage) I'm just not certain why it is happening now as opposed to prior to the dry burn.
Could not get it cleaned via dry burn. Pulled it apart and the cotton sleeve was burned. It's impossible to clean that. The manufacturer recommends not dry burning....for this reason perhaps.
If people are interested in dry burning ceramic to clean- ceravape's Cerebus uses coils that have no cotton whatsoever. The down side is that ceramic can over draw liquid. This will cause flooding and leaking. That's why the ccell has cotton(it stops drawing fluid once it's filled) It does have a shut off feature which sounds good. Unfortunately- I have heard that opening and closing that feature sort of acts like a juice pump. It causes leaking if overused.
I haven't bought one yet, but think I may. Ill try to follow up.
If people are interested in dry burning ceramic to clean- ceravape's Cerebus uses coils that have no cotton whatsoever. The down side is that ceramic can over draw liquid. This will cause flooding and leaking. That's why the ccell has cotton(it stops drawing fluid once it's filled) It does have a shut off feature which sounds good. Unfortunately- I have heard that opening and closing that feature sort of acts like a juice pump. It causes leaking if overused.
I haven't bought one yet, but think I may. Ill try to follow up.
My first set of coils no problem, but on the second set they burnt. I primed them and let them set for a long time still burnt. In a Atlantis tank. Now these were on a Wismec mod. Here id the weird thing. I took the tank off the Wismec and put it on the pioneer 4 you mod and it worked. I have no idea why this made a difference.
I have another problem though. I cannot get the Vaporesso cCell to thread onto a Triton 2 that it is suppose to fit. It looks to be the same size as the triton coil but it will not fit???
How about new coils never used and out of the package sitting around.....do they go bad?
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Back the coil out of the Triton base a little bit then go and thread the base onto the Triton tank......thats what I do and it works.
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I've used many 0,9ohms kantal, some lasted right (about70ml...) and good flavour and vapour quality, some were failed lasted few ml with disgusting taste....it's a lottery like bingo if you are lucky is the best flavour tank if the c-cells works not right, not correcly primerized or defected thumbs down...
The new 0.6Ω cCells are just about perfect! Wicks beautifully and yet to get a dry hit... probably the best vape around today!
I am using the 1.4ohm guardian coil for mtl. Can I use this process as well? My coil is only recommended for 8-13.5V max, and I don't know if that is hot enough to get them good and clean? Appreciate any help or advice you can offer.
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Hi Rob , just one question about those new 0.6 CCells , are them SS316 or Kanthal ? Watts range ? Thanks a lot
@Db75 They are SS and they say the wattage is 40-60 watts but I have found the best power is 30 watts. They have a big juice hole (and not the hex type) and the o-rings are black.
Thanks a lot for the information Rob , You're really great !
I searched here in Italy but no online shop got it at now ... all old batch with hexagonal flood holes and red rings ... today I trashed the last of 25 CCells in total , and all of them was 0.9 Kanthal ... probably my fav shop got a complete failure batch of them ...
Some of the early batches of cCells were nothing short of useless... the ones with the big juice holes (0.6Ω SS) are very scarce and I have never seen them on the Vaporesso website... but the new 0.6Ω SS with the normal Hex shaped juice holes are just fine... as are the new batch of 0.9Ω Kanthal cCells.
I noticed just after I dropped my mod/tank, the coil starting flooding and nothing I did changed that. I think when I dropped the mod, the ceramic cracked. The leaking got so bad, took the coil out and tore it apart. I found a significant amount of cotton and very little ceramic. I also noticed a tiny burnt flavor towards the end and sure enough, the top of the cotton was burnt just a bit. Starting to think the Aspire Triton Clapton coils are going to be my top choice for stocking up. They seem to rival the taste and duration of the CCells but much more reliable.
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