Question about RMS

Discussion in 'VAMO' started by Zee2006, Jan 3, 2014.

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  1. Zee2006

    Zee2006 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I have a Vamo V5, it has an option for RMS/ mean.......

    my son got a Vamo V5 from another company, his does not have the option to change his RMS/ mean...
    so I thought maybe he got ripped off and really it's another version of the Vamo....

    But then while researching it I found this on line dealer who list what's on the V5 they sale. It gave me the impression that it simply comes standard as RMS....

    Now I'm trying to figure this out.... Are there 2 types? One standard RMS and one with the ability to change it???

    Here's the link I was looking at.. Vamo V5 APV MOD - Variable Voltage e-Cigarette Battery - ITCVapes

    Any input would be appreciated :)
     
  2. Zee2006

    Zee2006 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

  3. Sad Society

    Sad Society Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    That's interesting that there is a version out there with only the RMS setting. You guys should see if both Vamo's have the MOBILE OUT ON mode. Explained in my other post here.
     
  4. K_Tech

    K_Tech Slightly mad but harmless Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yes, there are two types. The Vamo is made by more than one manufacturer and with at least two different versions of the board. With the exception of being able to switch between RMS and mean, they are identical.

    Quite honestly, most (if not all) folks prefer RMS anyway - I know I do!
     
  5. Zee2006

    Zee2006 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Yeah I agree, now that I know his is running RMS I'm happy with it :)
     
  6. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All ECF Veteran

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    I don't know about your Version Vamo, but mine (V2?) will every Once in Awhile change Modes on it's own. It is Rare but it does happen Occasionally.

    So if you ever pick up you Vamo and the hit Doesn't Taste right, check you Mode Setting before you Chuck your Clearo or Carto or Whatever.
     
  7. K_Tech

    K_Tech Slightly mad but harmless Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    My Vamo 3 AND my Smok Zmax do that occasionally when I change the batteries, but not every time.
     
  8. EBates

    EBates Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    The Firmware version installed on your Vamo. Your's may be KSD 2.0 version.
    Below please find how to verify your firmware version.

    Vamo's Do have a firmware version.

    V3 firmware version can be verified by:
    Remove the Battery Cap
    Press and Hold the Fire Button
    Reinstall the Battery Cap
    KSD 2.0 or KSD 3.0 should be displayed on the OLED display

    Story is that KSD 3.0 allows switching Mean/RMS (verified on my Vamo V3) while KSD 2.0 does not (RMS only).
    This being true explains why some V3s won't switch Mean/RMS.

    A PBusardo Review - The VAMO V5 - YouTube
    PBtusardo V5 review shows how to switch Mean/RMS
     
  9. bsoplinger

    bsoplinger Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I wanted to say thanks for this thread. I created a new thread about my V5 I just got because it wasn't behaving like I'd been led to expect from threads here and that half hour review video.

    Now I know I have the "other" style Vamo. It only does RMS and doesn't have the secret output mode menu. And held down the button for a good 20 or 30 seconds after the initial display. But it does everything I bought it for. So I'm happy now, life is good ;)

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
     
  10. JohnnyDill

    JohnnyDill Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I just got my Vamo V2 and I LOVE IT. It has the replaceable top cap, has great 510 threads, and I keep this device set to watts, which makes more sense to me. No issues, whatsoever, with this thing. Looks great. Perhaps improvements have been made. :vapor:
     
  11. Gunner83

    Gunner83 Super Member ECF Veteran

    I just got my V5 today to replace an old V1.

    I had watched PBusardo's video on it, and he said that eventhough it wasn't advertised, that it DOES come with RMS and AVG options. I tried on mine, and it doesn't, so it must be RMS only, which is fine by me. So I came here to ask if it's just a newer model, since the PBusardo video is a little dated, and then found this thread. It probably doesn't mean much, but mine came in the same exact packaging and wording, and same paperwork as shown in Phil's video. I got it on eBay.

    Some other differences I noticed was that mine says "Hello" before the "System: On", when turning it on (I wonder if it says "Goodbye" when you turn it off. I haven't tried yet. :D). I also notice that when I set the display to show the power setting when hitting the fire button, it does that, and also shows a battery icon. The actual battery is full right now, as is the icon, so I'm not sure if it's an actual battery charge indicator to show how much you have left or what. I don't have any discharged batteries right now to see, so I will have to wait.
     
  12. EBates

    EBates Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    I am really curious as to the version of your V5. Could I get you to check the firmware version and post the result?

    Note: Take note of your settings you may loose them in this exercise.
     
  13. bsoplinger

    bsoplinger Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mine does nada when I try to find the firmware. It's got the hello screen and is RMS only.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
     
  14. 350ZMO

    350ZMO Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I picked up a V5 off ebay from whole_ecigs_market at the end of January and just confirmed it is KSD3.0. It comes in Mean/Average mode and sometimes reverts to that mode. Definitely need to put it in RMS mode. The Mean mode burns at lowest setting. I am running it at 8W in VW mode with a Kanger Aero tank which is a bottom dual coil at 2.0ohms and 100%VG. The Mean mode will be approximately the square root of 2 higher. In DC the mean or average is equal to the peak voltage and the RMS voltage of a modified square wave is the peak divided by radical two which is 1.412. But it really is an approximation and actual number could be higher as the calculation is an integral of the square wave function (area under the curve for a full cycle average). So while I haven't tested it on a scope, in theory the PWM in mean mode should have a peak at least 41% higher than RMS. so even on 3V lowest setting that would be 4.24V peak. I have noticed that in RMS mode and setting to 4.2 volts it tastes burnt but different than in Mean mode at 3.0 volts. What I have noticed in practice is that there is no voltage or wattage setting I can set it at where it provides good vapor that doesn't taste funky in mean mode. It goes from too little vapor and funky to burnt in a heartbeat in mean mode. So just put it in RMS mode and remember it can reset so if it starts tasting burnt confirm it is still in RMS mode before doing anything else. I am very happy with the V5 and with the Aero provides a great amount of good tasting vapor.
     
  15. daviedog

    daviedog Super Member ECF Veteran

    I purchased my v3 last September. Could not access mean/rms modes. Quite happy with it till tonite!! Upon checking firmware version(didn't know about). I get V1.2. Anyone get this?
     
  16. daviedog

    daviedog Super Member ECF Veteran

    I purchased my v3 last September. Could not access mean/rms modes. Quite happy with it till tonite!! Upon checking firmware version(didn't know about). I get V1.2. Anyone get this?
     
  17. K_Tech

    K_Tech Slightly mad but harmless Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Just checked my V3, because I bought it around the same time you bought yours. Software version 1.3.
     
  18. 350ZMO

    350ZMO Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Yes I also have a SS V3 and it says KSD1.2 but I am very happy with it, it is always in RMS mode, I wish the V5 was that way as I have no need for the Mean/AVG mode because at even the lowest setting it burns the juice. Also, I just found this out, the V3 has a threaded battery tube right below the controller section where as the V5 has the press fit like the V2 did. I guess the V5 reverts backwards in this respect, I really don't like that. Since finding that out yesterday I'm starting to think the V3 is better, I just wish the body on the V3 was a satin smooth finish like the V5 versus the grooved on the V3. I guess the only thing in favor of the V5 press fit tube is it is SS versus chrome plated brass on my V2 so maybe it won't come apart like the V2 did.
     
  19. 1buda

    1buda Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Reading on how to check the version on my vamo3 I can't get it...
     
  20. K_Tech

    K_Tech Slightly mad but harmless Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    How long are you holding the button after you put the battery in? It takes a few seconds for mine to display the software version.
     
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