Review of the Aroma Juice's NEW P51 Mustang

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radiokaos

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I use the aroma line of juice. 70PG/30VG.

Are you adding VS WTA to the aroma line with or without WTA.

Some people have posted that starting at 10% VS WTA DIY added to their fave seems to work. If that does not help you might want to try a higher percentage of VS WTA to your mix.

Lets see if DVAP can stop by to offer some eloquent suggestions.
 

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Hi brother jerry. I haven't had the cash to order anything , so I got some stuff from work.
Did my first attempt at DIY unflavored. It tasted not to bad. After reading and learning more. What I thought was going to be 24mg. If fact probably turned to to be maybe 3-4 mg lol.

Started using a 21mg patch also.

Still trying to succeed.
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It's managing what a little bit of research and knowledge will provide.
Got some new blunt needle tips and sis some accurate measurements.
And I even wore rubber gloves while I was mixing. Lol

There you go... A awesome supplier that sells NIC only includes rubber gloves with every order. I have been putting together a care package for you but I'm still out of town. Hopefully by Friday I can send it off to you.


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Hi brother jerry. I haven't had the cash to order anything , so I got some stuff from work.
Did my first attempt at DIY unflavored. It tasted not to bad. After reading and learning more. What I thought was going to be 24mg. If fact probably turned to to be maybe 3-4 mg lol.

Started using a 21mg patch also.

Still trying to succeed.
Be blessed and be safe

LOL that sounds like me, I needed to make some 6mg unflavored nic, started out with 60mg base. You'd think that would be easy but with the rudimentary measuring utensils I have the only thing I'm confident of is that it was less than 60. Good 'nuff.
 

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Just let me know what you're starting with and what you're wanting to end up with.

I'm using 100mg VG base nicotine. 10%.
I'd like to come up with a 70PG/30VG base at 18 and 24mg. I've got the stuff.

I used some online calculators and it's ok. Just not curing the craving. :(

I've got some PG and VG with the nic in a VG base.

Thanks dvape
 

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Got it. I'll scale things for making 30 mL.

Materials available:

10% nicotine in VG
VG
PG

Make 30 mL of 18 mg in 70/30 PG/VG

The volume you're making and the resulting nicotine level you're looking for will determine the volume of the 10% nicotine in VG you'll be using. In this case, you're making 30 mL of 18 mg/mL, so the mg of nicotine required will be 30 mL * 18 mg/mL or 540 mg of nicotine. Since each mL of your 100 mg/mL base contains 100 mg of nicotine, you'll need 5.4 mL of your 100 mg/mL base.

To be precise, you have to realize that this 5.4 mL contains some VG and some nicotine. Since it's at 10%, and nicotine can be easily enough assumed to have a density of 1 g/mL, this 5.4 mL can be calculated to contain 0.54 mL of nicotine and 4.86 mL of VG.

So, when you put the 5.4 mL of your 10% nicotine in VG into your bottle, you're adding the the following:

0.54 mL nicotine
4.86 mL VG

So, you know you're making 30 mL, and you know there's going to be 0.54 mL of nicotine in that 30 mL. So in that 30 mL, there's going to be 30 mL - 0.54 mL of stuff that's not nicotine, or a total of 29.46 mL of VG plus PG. Since you want 70% PG, you'll use 29.46 mL * 0.7 or 20.62 mL of PG. Now, all you have to figure is how much VG to add. The total VG is 29.46 mL * 0.3 or 8.84 mL of VG. Realizing that the 5.4 mL of the 10% nicotine base contains 4.86 mL of VG already, you subtract this 4.86 mL of VG from the 8.84 mL figure and come up with 3.98 mL of VG.

So, putting it all together into a recipe.

30 mL of 18 mg nicotine in 70/30 PG/VG using a base of 100 mg/mL nicotine in VG:

5.4 mL 100 mg/mL nicotine in VG (0.54 mL nicotine, 4.86 mL VG)
20.62 mL PG
3.98 mL VG


Adding all of these volumes 5.4 mL + 20.62 mL + 3.98 mL = 30 mL
Verifying the critical nicotine concentration, we get 5.4 mL * 100 mg/mL = 540 mg nicotine total
This 540 mg nicotine ends up at a final volume of 30 mL, or 540 mg / 30 mL = 18 mg/mL
Finally, the PG is present at 20.62 mL out of a total PG plus VG volume of 29.46 mL
This gives us: 20.62 mL / 29.46 mL = 0.7 or 70%.
Or looking at it conversely, the VG is present at 4.86 mL + 3.98 mL out of a total PG plus VG volume of 29.46 mL.
This gives us 8.84 mL / 29.46 mL = 0.3 or 30%.

If you ignore the fact that some of the 100 mg/mL nicotine in VG is nicotine, and just calculate it as all VG, it makes the math somewhat simpler and doesn't affect the desired 70/30 PG/VG ratio all that much. Then it just becomes:

5.4 mL 100 mg/mL nicotine in VG
30 mL * 0.7 PG = 21 mL PG
30 mL - 5.4 mL - 21 mL = 3.6 mL VG
 

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I just skim for the answer.

Lol...I feel very fortunate that Dvap has helped me and the community over the last several years. His knowledge and ability to break things down in laymen terms gives us the ability to explore options and ideas that would have never crossed our minds.

Thanks again Dvap for your contributions to the ecig community.


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