Vaping is a Mimic Act of Smoking? I don't agree!!!

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  1. Zeroi

    Zeroi Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Guys & Gals, I need your Advise and guidance. For most of here us who have vaped or Currently Vaping, Do you agree with this Sentence? E-Cig / PVs / Vaping are a mimic act of Smoking.

    I don't agree but i still think that we are not even mimic(ing) as Vaping is a new era of Tobacco smokes.
    In the Past, People are unable to understands the tobacco Harms and they are unable to even create extracts of nicotine. Now we are in the 21st Century. E-cig came along using nicotine in liquids form but why are the Government so negative in accepting the fact that this is more healthier?
     
  2. Zal42

    Zal42 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I actually do agree -- the similarities are too strong and not accidental. People treasure their clouds and throat hit, which they want because it's like smoking. If it was solely about nicotine delivery, then the patch works better in many ways.

    That said, I don't see that it matters. I know some legislation & lobbying brings it up as if that were an additional reason that it should be banned, but I don't see how that argument fits in with a real public health issue. I think we should push back in that manner: so what if it looks like smoking? It doesn't offer anywhere near the same health risks for the vaper, and completely eliminates any problem with shs. Its appearance is irrelevant.
     
  3. les017

    les017 Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    that's what i was gonna say
     
  4. jj2

    jj2 ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Well said Zal42......................
     
  5. Zeroi

    Zeroi Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I think most government find 1001 reason to put up a ban of e-cig.
    To me, I think so what if it look like smoking, isn't the analog tobacco already on the market? The device in which we think is a creation to mimic tobacco analog at first but over the years till now, people are getting mods. And people can even vape non-nicotine. They serious don't even think positive on this but simply allow sales of tobacco. As is the number 1 income of most country.
     
  6. jlarsen

    jlarsen Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Not only the TH and the vapor clouds, but e cigs give smokers the similarity of oral fixation, and wanting to use their hands. A patch on your arm might deliver nicotine, but it is far to passive. Smoking is as much of a psychological addiction as it is a physical one. So, vaping is very much a mimic of smoking. That's probably why those that vape can quit smoking analogs instantly, whereas even the patch and gum which deliver nicotine fail more often and people continue to smoke even when using them. It's probably also why vaping is never going to be as much of a smoking cessation method as much as it is an alternative nicotine delivery system.

    The fact that carcinogens in vaping are 1/300th (at most) what are found in tobacco products, alone is enough to say "who cares if it looks and feels like smoking, who cares if it is an alternative and not a quit-smoking product, and WHO CARES WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK" The fact that you are putting an absorbable vapor into your lungs, and not small suit particles (the worst kind of air pollution imaginable), makes it even more "healthy" compared to smoking. Nevermind the hundreds of other chemicals.

    The reason smoking needed to be banned in public facilities is because it was an affront to the health of those not doing it. Vaping isn't, and it is much healthier to the actual user. I'm glad it mimics smoking. When I think of vaping I think of the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland, and how, back when smoking was acceptable, it was OK to have a cartoon character in a children's movie puffing away on a hookah. In an ideal world people could enjoy smoking nearly guilt free. But the world is not ideal, and smoke in the lungs is one of the greatest health threats man has ever known.

    Vaping on the other hand is about as close as that guilt-free smokers vision as is possible. With or without nicotine there is something alluring about the sight, smell, and taste of vapor clouds, which for all intents and purposes do mimic smoke.

    Vaping does not mimic smoking 100%, but it is damn close. The few things it doesn't offer aren't missed by former smokers anyway. Smelly breath, smelly clothes, dirty ashtrays, burns in clothing, carpets, furniture, and skin, cigarette butts overflowing ashtrays and trashcans and littering yards and decks and porches and car floors.
     
  7. ctourtelot

    ctourtelot Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I agree. It's the fact that it does mimic smoking that it works so well to replace it.
     
  8. Zeroi

    Zeroi Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks for the advise, after all is mimic still a winning point truely. Iquid smoking because of the mouth hand action and the puff out vapor.
     
  9. Vocalek

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    Root beer comes in brown bottles like beer. When you pour root beer into a glass it foams up like beer. We do not outlaw root beer because it looks like beer.

    Smoke is not dangerous because of how it looks, smoke is dangerous because of what it is.

    Root beer is not beer.
    Vapor is not smoke.
     
  10. cliff5550

    cliff5550 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    It absolutely mimics the actions of smoking. However, that alone is not sufficient reason to ban it.
     
  11. skye

    skye Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Exactly, agree 100%!
     
  12. neongirl

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    I have been smoking for 28 years tried to quit several times, but nothing worked untill now. Bought my first e-ciggarett about three weeks ago havent had an analoge since that day feels so great:)
     
  13. sethkal

    sethkal Super Member ECF Veteran

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    i personally feel that e-cigs are a mimic of smoking.

    but, we are in the technology age;

    I think e-cigs just fits in to this new category, a new more efficient and healthier way to smoke.
    Just part of growing technology!
     
  14. Janet H

    Janet H Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Well there you go! Best reply I've heard yet and it's true. We've still got to live through the learning curve of those who are certain they know how we should live our lives. Eventually they'll come around, but by the time it's accepted as a good thing it will be taxed to the hilt and be very expensive. I do see a day when vaping will be allowed everywhere like cigarettes used to be.
     
  15. popeyeuk

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    the inhalators they sell for people who are trying to quit smoking mimic smoking every bit as much as a pv. delivers nicotine in much the same way (you inhale it) the only real differences are that there is no visible vapor and there isnt a heat source
     
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