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what to expect from a total switch to 0mg nicotine and total VG liquid?

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  1. superegot

    superegot Unregistered Supplier

    May 17, 2012
    Hey Super Vapers

    Can anyone (if anyone tried this) tell me what i can expect if i switch from 18mg nicotine and 50/50 PG/VG to a 0mg Nicotine level and VG 70% / 30% distilled water eliquid.

    i mainly vape RY4 and Redbull but also looking to get some samples of the El Toro from houseofliquid but still at 0mg nicotine.

    This switch that i am thinking of doing is because i sometime am experiencing a sort of feeling of high blood pressure like heat in the head / palpitations.

    so was thinking of avoiding both PG and Nicotine.

    Any Suggestions please.

  2. the_vape_nerd

    the_vape_nerd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 20, 2011
    New Orleans, LA
    I think really that nicotine addiction like any other addiction can be overcome if you just set your mind to it. Your banner here says you are coming up on 2 months. That's great, but I really do think you ought to try and give it a bit more time. Old habits can die slowly.

    Why don't you try going down to 12mg first? Then in a month if you are doing ok, get down to 6 or 8? And then down to 4 until you get to zero?

    Maybe the symptoms you are experiencing are just because you are getting too high of a dose in too short of a time period. I fully support anyone wanting to go down to zero nic, but I really think as a new vaper you ought to give it just a bit more time.

    18 to 0 seems like a big step. In the end though, you've got to do what is right for you.
  3. the_vape_nerd

    the_vape_nerd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 20, 2011
    New Orleans, LA
    Oh and for the PG situation, there are many 100% VG juices. I think but am not sure that they can be cut with distilled water. But perhaps VG is more like an oil and won't mix with water? Someone with more knowledge than me will surely be by to speak on this point.
  4. superegot

    superegot Unregistered Supplier

    May 17, 2012
    Thanks for the quick reply maybe you are very correct and i should gradually lower the nicotine levels that i agree.

    as for the VG juices at 100% i am open to that also.

    Any other suggestions and help is appreciated
  5. the_vape_nerd

    the_vape_nerd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jun 20, 2011
    New Orleans, LA
    About the PG. I find that anymore than 60% PG is problematic in that it irritates my throat and makes me cough. Have you tried maybe a 50/50 mix? or 40/60? This might be the source of the problems you are having. Maybe you don't need to do away with PG altogether, just get a better ratio.
  6. Squish

    Squish Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 12, 2012
    When I first started, I discovered that I am extremely sensitive to nicotine overdose. I started with a 12, and was having similar side effects as you were. In my next order, I got some 0 nic and some 8 (8 was their lowest next to 0). Honestly, 0 is very tasty, but I needed my nic still. Even now I still switch it up, use some 8mg in the am, a mix I made at 4mg in the afternoon, and 0 at night. So far this has helped make the symptoms go away. Still gotta watch how much 8mg I use though!

    100%VG is great, definitely try that as well. I don't think you should put anymore than a couple drops of distilled water in with your VG or I believe the vapor goes away? Not sure on that one
  7. superegot

    superegot Unregistered Supplier

    May 17, 2012
    Well this is going to be my next move from MT BAKER VAPOR i am thinking of trying

    RY4 - VG 70% with 30% distilled water at 6mg nicotine
    Redbull - VG 70% with 30% distilled water at 6mg nicotine

    i am a bit strange to 100% VG since i am vaping on an EGO-T with stardusts and soon with phoenix Bottom Coil.

    any idea about 100% VG and does that need to be mixed or i can vape it directly. What about flavour with VG juices.
  8. bassworm

    bassworm Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2011
    Correct me if I am wrong somebody, but wouldn't taking 6mg nicotine and diluting that solution with 30% water actually cut the nicotine level down as well?
  9. Squish

    Squish Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 12, 2012
    I would get a 0nic as well, just to cover your basses. I use 100%VG with my ego twist and it vapes like a dream. If you get it and it's too thick, then adding a COUPLE OF DROPS of distilled water or everclear will thin it nicely. I get good flavor from them (I only get mine from Jugheads, so I'm not sure on other venders)
  10. superegot

    superegot Unregistered Supplier

    May 17, 2012
    i guess i will be switching to 12mg and 6mg nicotine strength at 70%VG / 30%Distilled water as i do not know if 100% VG will loose the flavour or blast my phoenix bottom coils, stardusts or battery.

    any comments
  11. wseyller

    wseyller Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2012
    Hendersonville NC
    When going to zero nicotine your throat and lung hit will completely go away. That is one thing I would miss. I could care less about the actual nicotine as a drug. I would miss my throat hit (real throat hit).
  12. ckone180

    ckone180 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 22, 2012
    Charlotte, NC
    I have used AVE 100% VG juices in Stardust (CE4) without any issues other than not letting the juice level go completely down. Also, you will want to empty the discolored juice out every other fill or so, as I found it to mute the flavor once mixed with fresh liquid. Good luck!
  13. SkyDancer

    SkyDancer Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 19, 2012
    I've been slowly reducing my nic level from 18mg down to 4mg. Let me tell you, it's HARD! I wound up vaping all the time and going through a ton of juice in the process. I'm back up to 6-8mg and doing ok. Still intend to get to 0mg but need to take it slower. My suggestion is when a lower nic level becomes the norm for you and you are completely happy with it, then lower it. I tried lowering every week and it was just too fast for me. You may have a completely different experience but this was mine. Good luck to you!
  14. superegot

    superegot Unregistered Supplier

    May 17, 2012
    I thankyou for your advice infact that is why i am ordering 12mg and 6 mg nicotine levels better than 18mg definitely and if it suits me with 12mg or 6mg and make my side effects go away that would be great. and yes my goal is to hit 0 mg nicotine
  15. otrpu

    otrpu Account closed on request Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 5, 2010
    When I was using straight VG and 0Nic, that strength made my nose run. Quit vaping, nose quit dripping. Now using 75-80%PG/25-30%VG, nose drips less. Don't even miss the Nic. JMHO

  16. OnnaB

    OnnaB Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2012
    From everything I have read....30% water will be way too much water! Just dilute a few DROPS at a time until you get desired thinning! Truly...I think 30 percent would make the juice pretty much vapeless.....
  17. skelley

    skelley Super Member ECF Veteran

    You could find a vendor that uses a nicotine substitute. Since nic is similar to pepper, some vendors offer a capsicum blend instead of nicotine.
    Anything higher than 35% VG seems to put a heavy coating of a oil like substance on my throat and in a heavy vape session, the throat hit diminished greatly not to mention the crap I cough up later.
    VaporRenew is one vendor that offers this nic substitute and $7.49 for 30ml is pretty cheap also.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes :)
  18. V8inDamma

    V8inDamma Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 10, 2012
    I would like to tell you your not alone. I also has the same symptoms around the 2 month mark. I went to vaping 0s in the evening. After my dinner fix of nic of coarse lol. I did ok but would be shaky sometimes. So I went on the search for an all vg and organic liquid as I was informed that it could also be some of the other things in these eliquids. I found them and I use a ego with a stardust with no problems. I also wanted to let you know that some of the Red bulls and mt dews and other ones that are named after energy drinks have caffeine in them or some other kind of energy booster. So if you drink coffee that also adds to it. I can't find the link again so you can read up on it but it is in this big wonderful forum somewhere lol.I do hope you find your happy medium as I know how flustering this all can be. Oh I did want to say that IMO I don't think the eliquid would hold a good taste with 30% distilled water but like I have never done that I am not sure. Good luck and if you are interested in the organic vg eliquids let me know and I will point in that direction. :vapor:
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