Where to Buy Nicotine?

Discussion in 'Nicotine' started by Nadia Maximus, Jan 12, 2009.

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  1. Nadia Maximus

    Nadia Maximus Senior Member ECF Veteran

    I know you can get 36mg and fraction it out, but where can you get just nicotine to add to the juice?
     
  2. spyderuk

    spyderuk Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Good luck!

    Are you sure you would like to mess around with somthing so toxic in your kitchen. That is if you can get it. :p
     
  3. Nadia Maximus

    Nadia Maximus Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Im very careful and even wear special gear :thumb:
     
  4. dc2k08

    dc2k08 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    I enquired about this once but I think you cannot import nicotine over a certain percentage without a license, maybe 36mg/ml. I found though that a 60kg steel drum of 98% nicotine was the smallest quantity I could order it in from one supplier and would cost $80 per kg so the total price would be $4800 for one drum.

    He warned that the content of Nicotine would decline easily If the drum was opened and exposed to the air for a long time. get some of that on your skin and I think your pretty much dead.
     
  5. Zach

    Zach Super Member ECF Veteran

    Yeah, you would die if you got some of that on you.
    From what i understand certain chinese suppliers carry flavorless e-liquid in different strengths. This is probably your best bet, but you might have to buy large quantities or get in on a bulk order.
    I have been thinking of starting one.
     
  6. Papa Lazarou

    Papa Lazarou Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    I think your best bet would be 36mg (3.6%) flavourless mix from CentralTrade or something like that. Some insecticides contain it (e.g. Blackleaf 40 is 40% nicotine, but it's no longer licensed due to its extreme toxicity I believe) but I certainly wouldn't want to inhale that. As dc says, in high purity form I think it will be capable of killing you just by touching it.
     
  7. Austintatious

    Austintatious Full Member

    yeap, 1 drop of nic on the skin will absorb and kill you. A full barrel of it would be a scary thing to be near.
     
  8. Frankie

    Frankie Super Member ECF Veteran

    I also believe any individual trying to buy of a barrel of that stuff would be a person of very keen interest to law enforcement.

    I mean, 3 pounds of nicotine should keep a heavy smoker very busy for over 50 years...

    EDIT: What the heck, it´s your life and maybe you can explain it to the authorities and keep alive as well. The answer to your question then might be here: [removed]
     
  9. schu

    schu Full Member ECF Veteran

    in the "Johnson Creek Now Listing Ingredients on Bottle' thread they don't list nicotine as an ingredient leading me to believe their nic source is tobacco essential oil (Virginia) or Tobacco Absolute (Burley) or both. i did a google search for both and they are available to buy online. we just have to figure out the dosing. Since they are below the natural and artificial flavors the amount would be quite low. I'm not sure if the versions being sold online are the same that JC uses. more research is needed. what we need to find out is the exact amount of nicotine these substances have and work out a formula for eliquid. perhaps contacting the manufaturers or running our own lab tests. if eliquid is banned by the FDA we may have to ressort to homemade eliquid.
     
  10. Kate

    Kate Moved On

    The tobacco essential oil and absolute are for flavour and scent as far as I know, not nicotine.
     
  11. taz3cat

    taz3cat Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Kate is right, those are flavoring. I looked on my JC bottle and nicotine is listed seperatly with a warning.
     
  12. jbbishop

    jbbishop Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Yet another account of how dangerous this stuff can be to work with. As stated, you simply can't buy nicotine alkaloid. Besides being dangerous, I don't think it could be cost-effective to attempt to extract it either when compared to currently available prepared smoking liquids. My conclusion is that, in the full sense of the concept, there is never going to be an acceptable method to make the liquid at home in a form that is compatible with vaporizing devices. Apparently, the only real possible antidote to accidental poisoning is not readily available outside of the labs at Phillip Morris.

    Strange Death From Liquid Nicotine [06/07-2]
    EXCERPTS FROM:Why did a Philip Morris scientist kill herself by drinking nicotine?
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By Dan Zegart[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]June 6, 2000 | [/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, times, serif]It had snowed, an event rare enough in Richmond that it seemed to put a strain on everybody and everything. Diana Dollinger had been holed up in her apartment virtually all weekend, scribbling notes, worried she was getting fat. These were neurotic obsessions. She was in fact an attractive, svelte twenty-eight-year-old, an entry-level researcher well thought of by other chemists at Philip Morris. She left behind a few relatives in the Richmond area when she died very early one Monday in January 1982, but no one claimed to know why she had drunk liquid nicotine, 100 percent pure, straight out of a brown bottle she'd smuggled home from the Philip Morris Research Center. She died a death experienced by several rats at the research center, but few people anywhere in the world. The victim loses control of its limbs and collapses as the bowels and bladder discharge, and the end comes in a wrenching, gasping convulsion.

    [FONT=times new roman, times, serif] Diana Dollinger would have had to go to some trouble to get the brown bottle, because nicotine wasn't used in the Physical Research Division building where she was part of a unit that analyzed how tobacco burns, an essential but unglamorous branch of the company's product research. It got William Farone, then-director of applied research at Philip Morris, who supervised Dollinger's unit and others, wondering whether there was a message in her method.
    "If you've got a choice, why pick that particular chemical?" he said to another scientist. Indeed, a chemist at Philip Morris would have been among a select few in the country who could appreciate just how nasty nicotine really is. Many at the research center learned the hard way that merely leaving a bottle of the clear liquid open in a warm room brings on a wave of coughing and gagging, followed in short order by dizziness and nausea. A few drops on a small cut on the skin are fatal within minutes unless the victim gets a shot of mecamylamine, which blocks nicotine's effect and is another thing that would be found at Philip Morris and very few other places.
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  13. jbbishop

    jbbishop Senior Member ECF Veteran

    On the other hand, if anyone ever considered trying to extract their own nicotine, in order for it to be cost effective you would need a cheap source of tobacco. This is the cheapest source available for bulk tobacco.

    tobaccotalk.itgo.com
     
  14. markdb77

    markdb77 Full Member Verified Member

    so how do you suppose Johnson's Creek and other manufacturers are making their eliquid?

    from raw materials, or are they getting everything in bulk and portioning it out?

    adding their own flavor, or is it already flavored?

    can we get the 36mg PG in bulk?

    where do the flavorings come from? does each manufacturer devise their own, or is ALL this stuff coming from one warehouse in china?
     
  15. taz3cat

    taz3cat Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Pure nic is made in the USA and sold in small bottle, but you have to be a University or a business with all the proper paper work to buy it.
     
  16. ccure

    ccure Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    See also this post:

    ...................

    There you can find:

    Nicotine USP 99.9% ---- 100ml for $147

    I do not know what are their requirements to sell it to you
     
  17. flexy123

    flexy123 Full Member

    nicotine is ultra,ultra toxic.

    The handling is extremely dangerous, it can even be fatal just by absorbing through the skin. And you think you're confidential enough to "mix" your own stuff where a few mg +/- off in your calculations can be absolute fatal?

    Something only a qualified lab technician should do, really.
     
  18. scintar

    scintar Super Member ECF Veteran

    Everyone needs to forget about this idea and buy a pre mix from one of the sponsors here or from overseas. Too dangerous to be playing with pure nicotine!

    Thread closed lol
     
  19. chief druid

    chief druid Super Member ECF Veteran

    i think its scary that i wat to try drinking pure nicotine ..... yeah this is a bit off topic but i think i saw something on the forum about a 48mg juice ..... cant find it again ... can any one help me out

    puffin
     
  20. Lithium1330

    Lithium1330 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Well if the problem is handling of pure nicotine, then ask the lab it they can make a special formula, 36% nicotine 64% PG.
     
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