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You know Sanj, I think that we are mostly far more educated about what we are doing to ourselves with esmoking. We question everything and then double check, not a bad thing when health is at stake.
My two worries about esmoking are tainted juice and taking too much nicotine. I can keep track of exactly how much nic I'm taking in now and can adjust the potency without losing the habit. Can't do that with cigs
My two worries about esmoking are tainted juice and taking too much nicotine. I can keep track of exactly how much nic I'm taking in now and can adjust the potency without losing the habit. Can't do that with cigs
It is your imagination playing tricks on you. There is no itch or cravings once you accept that you dont really need a fix every hour or so. Nic or tobacco might relieve stress but actually using it to relieve stress causes the cravings. It is no different than coffee, good meal, alhocol, chocolate bar in sense of the pleasure you get. And certainly consuming it constantly gives you no pleasure at all. Or do you drink and eat coffee, good meal, alhocol, chocolate bar every hour or so?
Yesterday I went for 4 hours without nic in any shape or form and felt no cravings. And yes, I was quite awake. Nic having half life of around 1 hour means that after 4 hours there was only (1/2)^4 = 1/16th of the nic left in blood. That said, I'm ready to call all this nicotine addiction thing just a figment of imagination.
Users of this forum must have some very active imaginations!
Suggest reading about nicotine addiction on any reputable science site. Nicotine addiction is not imaginary.
Suggest reading about nicotine addiction on any reputable science site. Nicotine addiction is not imaginary.
I so wish it was imaginary. This drug has dominated and blighted my life for nearly 30 years. In my misspent youth I tried many drugs, including some of the most addictive ones. The only thing I got hooked on is Nicotine. I have tried NRT, counselling, hypnosis and Zyban.
I detest nicotine and hate myself for being unable to ditch it. There is a hard core of addicts that cannot give up, just as there is a hard core of ...... addicts that cannot give up.
E-cigs are my methadone, if I thought for one moment i could break the nic habit, believe me, I would.
Perhaps it is only your imagination Jig but for many of us it is a true addiction. It sounds to me like you are very much like my hubby. He's the type of person who has smoked for most of his life but can fairly easily put them down and just walk away. He has a day or so of withdrawal but nothing major and so he can't understand why I can't do the same. As with any drug, the reactions are very different for each person and some people seem to be much more succeptible to addiction than others. While I don't think that I have an addictive personality I can assure you that I am completely and totally addicted to nicotine and caffeine. I have never been addicted to any other drug and only drink occassionally. I am not one to do many things in excess but with nicotine and caffeine I must have them to function...literally. And yes, I do grab a cup of coffee every hour...yes, even in the evenings.
So, all that being said, I'm very happy for you that you do not have the dependency on nicotine that some of us have. I wish that I had that ability and could walk away from nicotine for 4 hours without any cravings or desires. Good for you!
So, all that being said, I'm very happy for you that you do not have the dependency on nicotine that some of us have. I wish that I had that ability and could walk away from nicotine for 4 hours without any cravings or desires. Good for you!
Posted that last comment quoting the wrong post. I 100% agree with you TB, I must have an incredible imagination.
Have you been reading Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking? Sounds very similar to his theory. I managed to convince myself that it was true for a while but didn't last unfortunately.
like many of you here
I too am addicted to nicotine and caffiene,
have been using and loving them both for 45 years.
The two great loves of my life have been
Mr. Nic Otine, and Miss Caf Fiene.
since finding the e cigs,
I still love Miss Caf Fiene as much as ever,
and my new love is Master Nic Vapour
master because he is still young for me,
only 17 days today.
After trying virtually everything on the market
and pharmacy and internet for quitting cigarettes,
I was unsuccessful, managing only a few hours without
the warm, comforting caresses of my beloved Nic Otine.
Then, I found e-cigs,
I still can't believe that I have quit cigarettes,
and how easy it was, is.
I can still enjoy the love of my life in the form of
Nic Vapour, without all the harmful side effects
that Mr. Nic Otine brought to me with his delivery system of cigarette.
Christmas day is going to be a doozie for me,
my family are 90% smokers of the filthy cigarettes,
so I think I will be the center of attraction with my e-cigs,
pity I am not a rep for someone with samples.
vaping e-cig, and slurping coffee, Di ......
I too am addicted to nicotine and caffiene,
have been using and loving them both for 45 years.
The two great loves of my life have been
Mr. Nic Otine, and Miss Caf Fiene.
since finding the e cigs,
I still love Miss Caf Fiene as much as ever,
and my new love is Master Nic Vapour
master because he is still young for me,
only 17 days today.
After trying virtually everything on the market
and pharmacy and internet for quitting cigarettes,
I was unsuccessful, managing only a few hours without
the warm, comforting caresses of my beloved Nic Otine.
Then, I found e-cigs,
I still can't believe that I have quit cigarettes,
and how easy it was, is.
I can still enjoy the love of my life in the form of
Nic Vapour, without all the harmful side effects
that Mr. Nic Otine brought to me with his delivery system of cigarette.
Christmas day is going to be a doozie for me,
my family are 90% smokers of the filthy cigarettes,
so I think I will be the center of attraction with my e-cigs,
pity I am not a rep for someone with samples.
vaping e-cig, and slurping coffee, Di ......
scrubadub:
Yes I've seen one of his videos but I don't really know what other methods he has used. I'm using some of his ideas to serve other goals.
Okay, maybe I was exaggerating a little calling nic addiction imaginery. But the thing is, the itch or cravings you get after a hour or so are not withdrawl symptoms but like I said, just your imagination, or should I say the result of your imagination. The only withdrawal symptom I got was some ache on my shoulder and this was at the end of the 4 hour break(3 and 2 hour breaks on the same day).
Do you after watching a good movie for 1 hour in movie theather start sucking your finger or do you enjoy the movie till it ends? Did you take a cigarette break while watching Titanic that lasted for whipping 3 hours?
There is no biological clock that says you need a fix at a given time or else...
You dont want to congratulate me. I'm not trying to quit but to test the limits a bit.
Yes I've seen one of his videos but I don't really know what other methods he has used. I'm using some of his ideas to serve other goals.
Perhaps it is only your imagination Jig but for many of us it is a true addiction. It sounds to me like you are very much like my hubby. He's the type of person who has smoked for most of his life but can fairly easily put them down and just walk away. He has a day or so of withdrawal but nothing major and so he can't understand why I can't do the same. As with any drug, the reactions are very different for each person and some people seem to be much more succeptible to addiction than others. While I don't think that I have an addictive personality I can assure you that I am completely and totally addicted to nicotine and caffeine. I have never been addicted to any other drug and only drink occassionally. I am not one to do many things in excess but with nicotine and caffeine I must have them to function...literally. And yes, I do grab a cup of coffee every hour...yes, even in the evenings.
So, all that being said, I'm very happy for you that you do not have the dependency on nicotine that some of us have. I wish that I had that ability and could walk away from nicotine for 4 hours without any cravings or desires. Good for you!
Okay, maybe I was exaggerating a little calling nic addiction imaginery. But the thing is, the itch or cravings you get after a hour or so are not withdrawl symptoms but like I said, just your imagination, or should I say the result of your imagination. The only withdrawal symptom I got was some ache on my shoulder and this was at the end of the 4 hour break(3 and 2 hour breaks on the same day).
Do you after watching a good movie for 1 hour in movie theather start sucking your finger or do you enjoy the movie till it ends? Did you take a cigarette break while watching Titanic that lasted for whipping 3 hours?
There is no biological clock that says you need a fix at a given time or else...
You dont want to congratulate me. I'm not trying to quit but to test the limits a bit.
I've read that nicotine doesn't stay in your system for long too but that's not the whole story unfortunately. It changes the structure of your brain, something to do with dopamine receptors I think and we get more stressed when we don't have nicotine to keep the chemical balance we're used to. It's possible to go without nic for a long time but it affects mental balance among other things.
You need to go without nicotine for at least three weeks to get over most of the physical dependencies. Your brain chemistry will never recover.
You need to go without nicotine for at least three weeks to get over most of the physical dependencies. Your brain chemistry will never recover.
You will find people are quite different when it comes to nicotine addiction. I can tell that, yes, I left movies to go have a cigarette. The cigarette need was always there. If I woke up in the middle of the night, I reached for a cigarette -- and smoked in bed. I smoked and ate at the same time. I smoked while my hair was being cut. And it didn't get better after a few hours either. It got worse. A few days? Worse yet. Cross me at that point and I would rearrange your face. And I mean that!
With every other quit attempt before this one, people near me begged me to start smoking again, so the calm, happy person I had been would return.
I am thrilled if cravings just go away for you after a short while. I've heard a few others say that, so it must be true -- for them. Just don't extrapolate to everyone what you have experienced. Your experience was never mine.
With every other quit attempt before this one, people near me begged me to start smoking again, so the calm, happy person I had been would return.
I am thrilled if cravings just go away for you after a short while. I've heard a few others say that, so it must be true -- for them. Just don't extrapolate to everyone what you have experienced. Your experience was never mine.
Wow TB - it sounds like we have the same type of cravings. I refused to watch Titanic in the theater and waited for DVD - specifically 'cause there was no way I was sitting that long without a smoke. Same for all the LOTR movies - LOL. And friends definitely did not like the person I became trying to quit.
Just as there is no one-size-fits-all diet, we all have our unique struggles with this addiction of ours - but it's wonderful to have this forum to interact and realize we are not alone!
Just as there is no one-size-fits-all diet, we all have our unique struggles with this addiction of ours - but it's wonderful to have this forum to interact and realize we are not alone!
If I make it through an entire movie at the theater is is generally because I spent the first hour of the movie eating and the second drinking soda and chewing my straw to bits. No, I don't suck on my finger, but I do replace the cigarette with a "pacifier" whether it be food or a straw or I will get up during the movie and go out for a smoke. I did not take a cigarette break while watching Titanic but that was mostly because it was my first date with the man that would a year later become my husband and so I was more hyped up on puppy love and was able to make it through...barely. Like Bg, I have passed on seeing certain movies at the theater because of their length simply because I knew I'd have to miss part of the movie to have a cigarette. Like TB, if I wake up during the night I want a cigarette and when I was smoking analogs I would get out of bed and go outside to have one regardless of the weather. Now, I simply reach to my nightstand and vape away for a few then go back to sleep.
So, while there may not be a biological clock that tells me when I have to have a fix there is most certainly an addiction response in my body that tells me when I have to have one. And, since you don't want my congratulations I take it back...lol.
I do believe you are describing my day to perfection
Mine too...and what a perfect day it creates. *sip, vape, sip, vape, sip, vape*
dont it just feel sooooo goood.
I'm vaping to the kitchen to put the kettle on now,
good nite all.
Di .....
I'm vaping to the kitchen to put the kettle on now,
good nite all.
Di .....
It doesn't matter how you do it for the first time. Just make sure you memorize well what you have accomplished and how good/bad it felt like. Also make sure you don't reward yourself too much or it becomes a substitute. Start slowly changing every possible detail on how, when, why you get your fix. Do not try to push it, this isn't a race. When it gets too easy, change something else. The changes do not have to be permanent nor do you have to stop using nic altogether.
I actually found a name for this type of therapy and it is called systematic desensitization. According to wiki it is used to treat phobias and other anxiety disorders.
And you think I didn't do that? My usual routine was first to smoke a cig, brush my teeth, have a another cig and then hit the bed. No sleep within one hour, another cig and try again.
"If you can't calm down, can't derive pleasure and can't control yourself or concentrate, then it will be extremely difficult for you to break the habit ..."
Neuro News|Brain scans reveal cause of smokers' cravings | Radiology News | Radiology Articles | Medical Imaging News | Healthcare News | Source: Duke University Medical Center
Neuro News|Brain scans reveal cause of smokers' cravings | Radiology News | Radiology Articles | Medical Imaging News | Healthcare News | Source: Duke University Medical Center
I'm linking this thread here because it's about overdosing with 36mg juice - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/3579-worst-headache-my-life.html
This stuff can kill, please be careful about your dose.
This stuff can kill, please be careful about your dose.
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