Hi uba egar320,I enjoy reading your spirited discussions,and I seem to always side with you! Surf monkey and bones are hard to discuss things with as they seem to have a sharp tongue and a quick come back,though I totally disagree with them on everything,I notice they like to gang up 2 on 1. So,I applaud you for your courage,as going head to head with surf monkey got me an infractin and warning one time. You keep up the good fight!