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  1. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    We "didn't know" the hazards of smoking until 50 years later .....
  2. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    There must be a misunderstanding here. I happen to think you are one of the more objective individuals on this thread. The only difference we may have is the subject article in the OP. I have yet to reject it out of hand as some have. Questions it yes, but not reject it until we know more about...
  3. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    No need to apologize. Hard to have an intelligent conversation around here anyway - unless of course you subscribe to the conventional wisdom. Some of the logic I have seen on this thread belongs to fantasy-land; conspiracy theories, questionable interpretations, obvious distortions, and...
  4. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Hmmm. I always thought it was an actual clinical trial - small or not. Am I wrong in assuming that? I seriously doubt if they would reach such conclusions without some type of actual clinical trial. Where are you getting your information from?
  5. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Perfectly valid point. I wonder if the hard data is published somewhere.
  6. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I am not ready to dismiss the article in the OP as a lie until someone clearly spells out where the lie is. As far as I know, the paper was presented in a science conference attended by experts and scientists - hardly the type of people you can easily lie to. “We conclude that toxic aldehydes...
  7. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I understand your point jman8, but to me, objectivity is universal. It should not depend on which forum you are on. Otherwise it becomes a forum with an agenda.
  8. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I personally am the type who does not feel bullied or put down when someone questions my habits - whether it is smoking, vaping or even eating too many chocolates. Nor do I automatically reject any opinion that goes against my grain. I simply listen and try to asses the merits of the argument...
  9. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    The only thing I can do besides quitting, is to reduce my consumption along with the number of flavorings. I mostly vape unflavored. Nothing else I can do except be skeptical of what I read - good or bad. As to which posts, too many to choose from. Take your pick from any of the threads on the...
  10. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    DC2, thank you very much for this article about the possible benefits of nicotine. Excellent reading from a good source. Growing List of Positive Effects of Nicotine Seen in Neurode... : Neurology Today
  11. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Thanks but I know where they are. I should really read them.
  12. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Unfortunately dual use - not so prudent, but I am doing my best to smoke less, and cut down my mg's. Down to 5 mg from 12.
  13. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Sorry you feel that way but I have not had a chance to read all the links you mentioned. Perhaps I should, but in the meantime this is the essence of what I am saying: None of us know for sure what are the long term effects of vaping. And yet many on this forum have already made up their mind...
  14. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Smoke is partly nicotine plus other agents. I am not going to rule out anything - not nic and not the other agents. I do recall however one scientific paper stating that nic is the most pharmaceutically active ingredient in smoke. I will post a link if I manage to find the article. It's also...
  15. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Your experience might be different than mine because I still light up a few times a day, and nicotine gets absorbed much more readily that way. I use peroxide as well, but mix it with an equal amount of water. Is that what you do? What about salt water, you mix it with the peroxide or...
  16. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    I have developed some dental problems which my dentist attributes to nicotine; but he hasn't given me a source behind his opinion. As to the meaning of the word addiction, I may not know what it looks like, but I know it when I see it - That is what one chief justice said about pornography.
  17. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Thanks, I will read it and get back. I do have one benefit of nicotine in mind; gives me a good high :)
  18. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    Not to repeat myself, but if I were to rely on someone's advice on addiction - nicotine or otherwise - I'd rather depend on medical experts. The hand to mouth thing is only part of the story.
  19. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    OK, so you did it for insurance purposes. But still, if I was looking for advice on addiction, you'd be the last person I would consult. There are plenty of scientist and medical experts to rely rather on than someone on one of these forums; someone who denies addiction even exists..... You are...
  20. Exchaner

    Vaping vs Smoking

    The length of time is immaterial; if that was the yard stick to go by, I have much more experience than you. I quit smoking for 9 years. And I didn't say addiction can not be cured. What you and I went through is a perfect example. But to deny addiction is like telling a fairy tale. On a...
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