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  1. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    Geebus, 75mg?? o_O I've cut waaay back since I first started, first at 18mg (07), then 25mg (08), then 35mg (09). Quit on 35mg in 2009, but I've been down to 15mg for the past couple of years. But I only vape about 2-3mls/day now. Tried quitting completely a few times, went a week and didn't...
  2. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    Let's all hope that you're right, Rossum. I'm not so sure that they cannot, especially considering their refusal to answer questions pertaining to the possibility in the future. Just this point, all by itself, is cause for concern. The fact that DIY is written into the law under tobacco...
  3. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    I appreciate your input zoi, but now were back to the eggplant scenario which has already been covered. What good is pure nic, not derived from tobacco or synthetic, if you can't mix it? Once you mix it with a TCA regulated product (PG/VG/flavors), the product is now under the control of the...
  4. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    I guess that you missed reading my entire opening statement as well as 2 pages of posts? They neither deny it nor are acknowledging their intent, they're only willing to say that they're not enforcing DIY under the registration requirement written into the law...atm.
  5. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    Right up to the point that you make a regulated product from those 'ingredients'. Where you obtain the parts is irrelevant, you'll still be able to use them for DIY....unless the FDA starts enforcing registration for DIY'ers. If that happens, then the only thing that a non-registered DIY'er...
  6. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    You can start reading on your own, I'm not gonna do it for ya. I'm not saying that to be rude, I'm just being honest. :) FDA Says Nicotine-Free E-Liquids Are Tobacco Products in 'Certain Circumstances' Federal Register :: Deeming Tobacco Products To Be Subject to the Federal...
  7. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    Here ya go man, enjoy :): FDA's New Regulations for E-Cigarettes, Cigars, and All Other Tobacco Products
  8. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    I think that they're planning to ruin vaping as a whole, call it a conspiracy theory. ;) Take out commercial sales first, by increasing juice price to absurdity. DIY would likely take over the market, eliminating retail stores juice sales which could in turn cause retail store closures. Get...
  9. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    Make it easy on yourself, call up John MacLeod (owner) at Wizard Labs and ask him. I don't know what the exact restrictions were prior to the TCA and I certainly have no desire to look for them, just easier to ask John. :) Wiz got his start at Vapatron, I knew him back when he was just a small...
  10. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    While I'm at it, should I also find Kanthal, Nichrome wire, batteries, 0% nic-juice and anything else that's deemed a tobacco product? It's in there, that's why so many people are suing the FDA.
  11. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    Distribution is regulated for taxes and fees, but you're a tobacco manufacturer the moment you mix it. This is why I keep referring back to this: "The law defines a manufacturer as anyone who manufactures, fabricates, assembles, labels, or processes a tobacco product. Establishments, such as...
  12. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    No I'm talking about isolating nicotine from tobacco.
  13. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    FDA's New Regulations for E-Cigarettes, Cigars, and All Other Tobacco Products Liquid nicotine is a product made from Tobacco, it's regulated by the FDA under the TCA. The only instance where it wouldn't be regulated is the point that skoony tried to make. If you grew your own tobacco (not...
  14. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    "The law defines a manufacturer as anyone who manufactures, fabricates, assembles, labels, or processes a tobacco product. Establishments, such as vape shops, that mix and/or prepare combinations of liquid nicotine, flavors, and/or other liquids, or an establishment that creates or modifies an...
  15. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    Tobacco is a raw material, not nicotine. It's a component of tobacco and is age-requirement regulated (extremely deadly poison). Pure nicotine was regulated long before vaping was even a word, that's why it doesn't require a PMTA because it was already on the market before 2007. It's widely used...
  16. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    And just how many people buy tobacco and extract their own nicotine and use it for DIY? The answer is maybe .001% (if any), so your reference doesn't apply to 99.999% of the population of DIY'ers. The only people that I've even heard of doing this were retail shops that catered to cigar...
  17. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    The debate opened up a gigantic hole that cannot be answered using the text of the law and not even the compliance officer would answer it. One of the scenarios that I presented to her was asking what would stop any and all tobacco manufacturers (like a juice-maker) from starting out as a DIY...
  18. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    She wasn't "low level", she was a compliance officer.
  19. Shekinahsgroom

    FDA FDA Released New Interpretation of Compliance Policy Guidance PDF

    This is part of the response that I received from an on-going debate about regulating DIY by requiring all tobacco manufacturers register and why the definitions of the law are unclear. "The law defines a manufacturer as anyone who manufactures, fabricates, assembles, labels, or processes a...
  20. Shekinahsgroom

    Why do we still call them mods?

    Here's my question... Since the term vaping originated from bigger battery mods and variable voltage, what some might refer to as tootle-puffers, then why do cloud-chasers use the same term? Wouldn't they be clouding?
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