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  1. beckdg

    Ẁhere to get combustible tobacco cigarettes with no nicotine?

    My dad used to swear at 18 a person was granted infinite knowledge. And every day after a person would lose some. By his calculations, the day I turned 18 he'd already been a bumbling idiot for quite some time. Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  2. beckdg

    Ẁhere to get combustible tobacco cigarettes with no nicotine?

    Reading through this thread I had an epiphany. I just realized nicotine is the only addictive substance known to man... and obviously known to BT. :blink: Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  3. beckdg

    Ẁhere to get combustible tobacco cigarettes with no nicotine?

    I think we can all get behind that. Except the media, BP, BT, Congress, fda, WHO and the 3 letter agencies and "health organizations" that sent the letter to Obama. All of whom have stake in the claims if not only on the house of cards they built for themselves, but in some cases SOOO much...
  4. beckdg

    Ẁhere to get combustible tobacco cigarettes with no nicotine?

    All the harmful side effects. None of the guilty pleasure. I wonder if BT would still add a slew of chemicals and make them addictive anyway.... Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  5. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    :blink: Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  6. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    :blink: Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  7. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    However you are paranoid if someone's obviously trying to do it with a needle and you can't stop looking for a gun. Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  8. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    I can't believe someone's blind paranoia actually convinced me to defend BT. Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  9. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    :facepalm: So you don't believe them when they say they're saving money not wasting product? Seriously? That doesn't relate directly to them wasting product to increase a substance that won't result in the increased addiction you claim they're doing it for. Maybe look a bit more into the...
  10. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    They're not removing nicotine and adding it. They're making a pulp out of less desirable parts and adding back what they lose in the water later. Nicotine just happens to be one thing that soaks out in the water. Any salt will. Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  11. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    You're moving the goal posts. To "add nicotine" is to add nicotine. Period. Sorry, I meant it's not nicotine extraction. It's pulp extraction if anything. To add that concoction is to introduce a whole host of other issues to overcome. And there's still the issue of waste byproduct and...
  12. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    It's not an extraction process. I never claimed nicotine wasn't lost. But nicotine isn't extracted and isolated either. If one were to use this process to add nic, they wouldn't even get a clean WTA let alone a clean nic to add in later. After the pulp is made, they're simply evaporating...
  13. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    Watch it again. They never mentioned extracting nicotine which is a difficult process. They made a pulp that could be manipulated into a sheet. During that process they lost a lot of the chemical makeup. So they dehydrated the liquid the pulp was formed in to get what was leached from the...
  14. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    TOBACCO is being dumped through the business. It would take more TOBACCO to get more nicotine in a cig. Then you would have to EXTRACT that *nicotine* from the extra TOBACCO to spray it onto the tobacco you're going to use. Then you would have to ISOLATE the nicotine. After all this...
  15. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    More efficient farming with better yields and a better overall product = more profit. Adding a small amount of very cheap ammonia to increase addiction by a factor of 100 = more profit. Adding (nicotine) the single most expensive constituent of your product to achieve a (very small) fraction...
  16. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    There is stronger, better tasting, less tainted tobacco readily available. Nicotine is fairly expensive. Nicotine is at best mildly habit forming by itself. The process outlined above is one to maximize profits. There's no benefit as a business decision to adding nicotine. Ammonia makes...
  17. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    Thanks, Duane. "Never at any point in the processing process is any additional nicotine added." "The resulting product actually has less nicotine than when the crops were harvested or processed." :thumb: Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  18. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    Where do they get the nic? From the bits they're making sheets out of? Guns don't kill people, virgins do! -Jim Jeffries
  19. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    I agree... But I have no evidence or knowledge that they're spraying nic on cigs. Seems counter productive in a cost/benefit, but what do I know? Ammonia (which reportedly binds with nic making a 100 times more addictive compound) and other additives, I have no doubt about. But the...
  20. beckdg

    New FDA policy conflicts with itself and vaping

    Furthermore, the dismal 1.1% to 1.6% per year increase indicates to me that nicotine content likely isn't the focus in the improved farming. "Other Stuff" seems to have had years within that same time frame where they've not only been able to isolate and choose which of the 2 active ingredients...
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