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  1. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I use the same gear I use daily, a Taifun GT. Since the 100DT method will produce about 3 mils, more or less, the tank works best for me. I use cotton, Japanese Cotton pads actually made by Koh Gen Do. It takes me a good 20 or so vapes to get the gist of the flavor, so I prefer a tank. I may or...
  2. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    My bottle says Egg Nog Flavor: https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7522-egg-nog-flavor.aspx For some reason, when I searched for egg nog nothing came up. But, when I plugged in egg, it did come up. It may be a bulk order item, but I'm not sure. My bottle is 4 ounces, and it's vastly superior...
  3. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I use a 10% solution in PG by weight and use a scale to measure ingredients. Since citric acid is used by drops usually, it's pretty straight forward and I didn't worry too much about percentages. If you can taste the citric acid, you're using too much. It should have no affect on taste. Good luck!
  4. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    No, the myth is that juice that requires steep times, or long steep times to fully develop. The flavor can be mixed with precision to a precise flavoring one may desire and then at about 95% arrested where no further changes occur, i.e., citric acid among others. The other myth is that waiting a...
  5. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Put a couple drops of citric acid in the mix. Steeping will NOT change the flavor. These are old myths of juice making. It is absolutely possible to make great juice immediately and not have flavor changes if you know how. It's how most of the commercial juice makers do it, not all, of course...
  6. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Thank you for your questions! I make my juices to suit not only my tastes, but also my gear, and the way I vape, so they will always vary with every other user. DIY can be tricky to make adjustments, but I may be able to suggest some changes for you. As these recipes are, they taste great to me...
  7. Bill's Magic Vapor

    Bill's Vanilla Custard

  8. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    You should write up this procedure in detail and blog it my friend! We need these instructions available to point to for the new members who don't know this stuff! :toast:
  9. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I probably worked harder on this recipe than on anything else. This took about a year, and I tried it yesterday, and I still like it very much: Bill's Vanilla Custard Vanilla Custard - 13% Sweetener - 6% Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - 3.5% Egg Nog - 2% Smooth - 2% Butter - 2% Graham...
  10. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Thought I should re-visit the Fire and Ice: Also, the Fireball 54 Recipe is another recipe along similar lines: I made these two on the same day about six months ago in response to a Vendor request. They were both very well received, and I've heard good feedback here, particularly on the...
  11. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I have not personally noticed that the Sweetener, nor Cotton Candy detracts from the flavoring. In fact, you're the first to say this, that I've heard, so it may be your tasted sensitivity at this time. In fact, most people notice a pronounced improvement in taste with the addition of sweetener...
  12. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Generally speaking, I never used menthol tobacco, and so have never really worked on many menthol flavors. The ones I did develop were quite similar to other mixes with the addition of 1 - 2% menthol. I did have one friend in Hawaii that wanted a pure 6% menthol blend. Never seemed good to me...
  13. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I use flavors generally between 20% - 30%. Perfumery/Chemical/Floral notes are not caused by too much flavoring, but by not having the proper mix of flavorings, among other reasons. I have a blog about this...
  14. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Ruining may or may not happen if you dilute the flavoring and reduce the menthol. You probably cannot both reduce the menthol and keep the good part of the flavoring, but, if in doubt, go ahead and dilute with VG or PG or both, and see if you can save the juice. It's easy if you DIY to reduce...
  15. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Start with any of the cake recipes (I have a lemon cake), and substitute raspberry. Raspberry is surprisingly good as a vape. The first time I used it, it became an ADV. My lemon cake is: FW Yellow Cake Lemon - 10% Cotton Candy - 5% Bavarian Cream - 4% Sweet Cream - 4% You can...
  16. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Not yet. I probably haven't made anything new in several months, but this is on the list. Sorry! :toast:
  17. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Cotton candy is Ethyl Maltol, but Ethyl Maltol is not always cotton candy. Even if you have the right recipe, once you get into weights of ingredients, flavorings can be different from one maker to the next. This is why I always say cotton candy and not EM. The PG/VG ratio can definitely affect...
  18. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    If you keep the creams and vanillas fairly low, at say 3 - 4% for each, you will expand the primary flavoring without creating the creamy flavor that you are trying to avoid. One of the early DIY lessons I learned is that creams and vanillas can super enhance the primaries without dominating the...