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  1. Uma

    Between a rock and a hard place

    Ahhh, TC's chant about it being too difficult to tell a cig from a vape, has finally sunk in with corrupt officials seeking new ways to criminalize and fine people. It's too bad people think that it's okay for others to govern their personal space, body, health, air, water, food, property, ...
  2. Uma

    Vaping now banned in national parks.

    Racehorse said "The whole point of the national park system has always been to educate---- but also to leave the park system’s resources and wildlife “unimpaired for the enjoyment of future generations.” The problem with that sentence, is it's too centered upon the developers future...
  3. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    Bumping the link
  4. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    Hiya FT!!! Make mine an 805, I'll bring the pink Himalayan salt. That's good to know it's not legal. You rock Rossum, for standing up to them!
  5. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    LA times has a running page. Smoke tax still on the table. Hernandez bill still to be clarified. Good news on two things though, 2 of the agenda 21 bills failed (forcing petroleum to be at half levels by 2030 & forcing car manufacturers to be switched over to all smart cars by 2030)...
  6. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    Have any matheticians calculated the money made from eCigs in calif? If 1 million Californians quit smoking & bought vape gear, calif reaped ?$ in sales taxes. If 10 thousand vendors & employees pay state (& county) taxes, permits, fees, unemployment ins, SSI, etc, how much did the state...
  7. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    ^^^this^^^ They should also pay we the people for all the work they force us to do when they try to trample our rights. I'd settle for imprisoning them whenever any of them creates an unconstitutional law. (Which is ALL the time anymore).
  8. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    It's a controversial subject, but yes, that's the gist. They abort, Nuff said. Most "establishments" are in black communities. Nuff said. I do not aim to talk on this subject more.
  9. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    They strategically place the strategically delicious packaging at children's eye level on the store shelves.
  10. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    Funny how all these politicians who use the "save the children" motto for raising smoke taxes, also simultaneously 100% agree with the opposite agendas that kills our children. Planned Parenthood Affiliates of California Rating - The Voter's Self Defense System - Vote Smart
  11. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    Good catch! However, I have a feeling they will be "rostered". Which is extremely bad news for new improved models. (c) “Smoking” means inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying any lighted or heated cigar, cigarette, or pipe, or any other lighted or heated tobacco or plant product intended...
  12. Uma

    Who is reading the Electronic Cigarette News and Campaigning subforum?

    Oh nice mod! Time to swim away before I bite another hook... We are literally fighting for the right to enjoy the act of quitting smoking, and the act of healing. Makes me sick.
  13. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    It used to be that way, yes, but mods, coils, etc have improved dramatically over the years. This quote says it all. "When government regulates private industry people do not and cannot own their businesses. People merely possess their business as long as the government wants them too. All it...
  14. Uma

    New claims about burden of disease from smokeless tobacco are utter junk (the short version)

    Even if this BS were true, we didn't hire the gov to protect us from ourselves, we hired them to protect our constitution, country from foreign invasion, and to work out commerce between foreign countries.
  15. Uma

    Who is reading the Electronic Cigarette News and Campaigning subforum?

    Welcome taxguydave! I couldn't agree more. There needs to be a forum for combined talk. I understand why it's banned here, too many goofy posters come & go which ruins it for the serious. I still skim the forum here, but don't live here anymore. Like Dora the fish, I need to save...
  16. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    I caught this on FB last night, (thanks Kath!), which says that all inhaling/exhaling, chewing, sniffing, however the enjoyment, no matter the product, is in the bill. This includes the "other" products. This means, no safer delivery system Meds for youth, no using Meds around youth even...
  17. Uma

    Low-nic cigs vs high-nic cigs

    Smoke kills live cells, nicotine doesn't. In fact, they thrive and multiply I think. Smoke without nicotine, bad murderous idea. Nicotine without smoke, possibly beneficial. Nicotine with smoke, undoubtedly helpful for killing weak cells that otherwise mutate into cancer cells, multiplies...
  18. Uma

    CALIFORNIA VAPERS: Things are getting ugly...

    It will stop when people stop turning their backs on issues that they're not interested in or hold a bias against. The TAC I posted above, is helpful. Just search your state, sign up to help fight the tyranny, or start one yourself where needed. Easy. The more people learn, the faster it...
  19. Uma

    FDA/NCI funded researchers deceptively insinuate e-cigs are as harmful as cigarettes

    The second the agency was formed until the second the people unite and nullify them. It's no surprise that unconstitutional agencies fight unconstitutionally. That's their game. What's ours? Those who are tired of these games, should join the nullification brigades and take their power...
  20. Uma

    Jesse Hathaway: Government Grant Funding Corrupts Tobacco Research, Holds Back Scientific Inquiry

    This site helps to fight the unconstitutional agencies, laws, regulations & more. Yes, the FDA, CDC, IRS, EPA, HHS, NIH, are ALL unconstitutional agencies. What About the States? | Tenth Amendment Center
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