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  1. sofarsogood

    Are you done stocking up?

    The people who have been whining about vaping for the last 10 years are in full cry this week. There have been bad weeks before. The Michigan rules have yet to be written. I bet that is going to be a very hard job. Will the NYC government really put all the vape shops out of business. I...
  2. sofarsogood

    NEW YORK CITY: (CALL TO ACTION!)

    Michigan governor is trying to ban flavors by executiive authority. People mostly in the midwest are being sickened by a tainted T_C vaping liquid sold on the black market. New York is jumping on a bandwagon? Discouraging vaping does more harm than good. Everybody knows that.
  3. sofarsogood

    Are you done stocking up?

    I know I have more than a lifetime supply of atomizers I like. I have enough mods unless they don't function as long as I'm hoping so may be I'll pick up a couple more. I've probably got enough nic, barely, but will probably get a couple more bottles. I'm in Michigan so wise to do something...
  4. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    The bad liquid has one source that is already known. As soon as that is disclosed the advice that everbody should stop vaping immediately will have a hollow ring if it doesn't already. To get ecigs banned while cigarettes remain for sale the same as always will take some outrageous lying.
  5. sofarsogood

    Altria: JUUL Of Denial

    The elites want to ban vaping while cigarettes remain for sale the same as always. To get away with that the lies have to be woppers.
  6. sofarsogood

    FDA slams Juul, threatens seizure

    How do we know what the students are saying is true.? Did the students offer evidence? Has there been a response from the person accused?
  7. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    Se we are reading that hundreds of people have reported illness. A high percentage of them should be able to identify their sources. How many of those sources has been identified or questioned, if not arrested? It feels like they are protecting the drug dealers.
  8. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    I read an online report saying michigan has half a million vapers. That sounds high but I do see them often (usually trying to be discrete). That's a lot of people who might feel they need to take action without delay. We hear that the rules for this ban have yet to be written. That might...
  9. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    May be some good will come of this. I don't talk to smokers any more. They all know what's up. I pretty much stopped talking about stockpiling to vaping coworkers and acquaintenances. It just annoys them. I wonder if those views will change. One would think there will be a wide variety of...
  10. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    My rough estimates are 200-300 thousand adults buy vape products and 1000+ locations may have vape related products for sale in Michigan. The governor has created significant problems for all those business owners and consumers. I doubt any thought was given to the responses of so many people.
  11. sofarsogood

    The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

    I live in Michigan. I think the governor and her public health boss have blundered, but may be they think they have nothing to lose. Michigan probably has a hundred Nice find. Now which of these did the damage? Why haven't the authorities talked about these leads. The only eliquid...
  12. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    Thanks for posting that. Now I've heard the governor and her chief public health person. I expected more from a department head. I believe she said some things that are intentionally deceptive, not so good from someone in her position. (to jump to the interiew at 36 minutes there is a...
  13. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    It's fake news created by fake journalists. It was pretty obvious from the start that a batch of T_C eliquid got contaminated and likely all of it came from one source. Since the product has now sickened someone who bought from a licensed retailer (in Washington State?) it shouldn't be too...
  14. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    This effects many thousands of people. It could be that the smallest percentage of them are the kids the governor says she must protect. Is there an emergency to justify an immediate prohibition? Certainly not. Huricane Dorian would be. When I'm the boss I say, you always get your say...
  15. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    We don't know because the final rules have not been released, probably not yet written. In the mean time vapers everywhere have to ask, could my governor or national leader do the same? I bet most vapers in the US don't know what's supposed to happen next May. If they pay attention to the...
  16. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    May be the governor blundered by announcing her intentions without being ready with her final rules. One of the frustrating things for me, vaping for the past 5 years, has been the apathy of my vaping friends to the possibility of government interference. Now a governor in one State has done...
  17. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    The final rules are not released. Apparently that will take a few weeks. We are told it will be 30 days after that before the rules take effect. Likely lawsuits will be filed after the actual rules are released. Part of the lawsuit will be a request for an injunction to delay enforcement...
  18. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    Listen to the governor's comments about her actions. She is shallow on this topic. Her talking points were fed to her by people who know little more than she does. If the coaching came from her health department they have no one with a sophisticated understanding of the issues or that person...
  19. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    I live in Michigan, I've met plenty of vapers in the past 5 years. I would make a $20 bet that 90% of them were Trump voters. My read of the governor is this is a political stunt. She figures she can't lose with her supporters even if the courts overturn. A court challenge seems likely if...
  20. sofarsogood

    Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

    So I watched video of the governor commenting on her ban. She's obviously psyched up and expecting a lot of national publicity. I also watched some local TV news reporting. I'm a life long Michigan resident. My impression is the "mainstream" media and the Democratic governor are punishing...
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