Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

[bombastinator]

Do we still believe it's basement cookers and not Pfizer that surreptitiously released poison drug carts ??

Apparently one of the issues is Chinese shanzahi manufacturers started putting out empty professional looking packaging that anyone could put anything into. “Dank vapes” apparently isn’t anyone’s brand at all. So probably. As to who is pushing the “its ALL vaping! BAN ALL CIGARETTE ALTERNATIVES!!” That could still be corporate money.

 

[zoiDman]

Do we still believe it's basement cookers and not Pfizer that surreptitiously released poison drug carts ??

Whereas BP running a Covert Rig to plant poison carts on the street has all the Makings for a Jason Bourne movie. And the Stuff that Tin Foil Hats are made of. I can't see BP sticking their Necks into that Liability Noose at ANY Level of Plausible Deniability.

Heck... All BP has to do is Wait 244 Days and the FDA is going to Do More for them than any Wrong Foot game could accomplish. And with Zero Risk.

 

[Mowgli]

Whereas BP running a Covert Rig to plant poison carts on the street has all the Makings for a Jason Bourne movie. And the Stuff that Tin Foil Hats are made of. I can't see BP sticking their Necks into that Liability Noose at ANY Level of Plausible Deniability.

Heck... All BP has to do is Wait 244 Days and the FDA is going to Do More for then any Wrong Foot game could accomplish. And with Zero Risk.

Where's your sense of adventure?
Remember you heard it here first when FBI finds some Altria employee's fingerprints on some poison carts.

 

[zoiDman]

Where's your sense of adventure?
Remember you heard it here first when FBI finds some Altria employee's fingerprints on some poison carts.

But those Finger Prints will actually come from a Dick Durbin Deep Cell Operative that had his fingers Surgically altered in Argentina.

 

[Baditude]

Apparently one of the issues is Chinese shanzahi manufacturers started putting out empty professional looking packaging that anyone could put anything into. “Dank vapes” apparently isn’t anyone’s brand at all.

Dank Vapes Is the "Biggest Conspiracy" in Pot That Can Put You in a Coma | Inverse

That is some scarey stuff.


“These are just people filling cartridges as ‘Dank Vapes.’ It’s not a singular facility. It’s just people in their garages filling them and selling them.”

Myron Ronay, the CEO of BelCosta Labs, a cannabis testing lab in California, tells Inverse that they often see black-market products that contain unsafe levels of myclobutanil — a fungicide. When myclobutanil is heated, it releases toxic fumes, one of which is hydrogen cyanide. Small amounts of HCN are released when smoking cigarettes, but larger doses are lethal. HCN was a major component of Zyklon-B, the gas used in Nazi gas chambers. Unregulated products, like black-market Dank Vapes, have no one checking to see where that line is drawn."

 

[CMD-Ky]

Do we still believe it's basement cookers and not Pfizer that surreptitiously released poison drug carts ??

I am ashamed to say it but I still believe.

 

[sofarsogood]

Se we are reading that hundreds of people have reported illness. A high percentage of them should be able to identify their sources. How many of those sources has been identified or questioned, if not arrested? It feels like they are protecting the drug dealers.

 

[Eskie]

Se we are reading that hundreds of people have reported illness. A high percentage of them should be able to identify their sources. How many of those sources has been identified or questioned, if not arrested? It feels like they are protecting the drug dealers.

You expect them to roll over on their dealers? That's not how it works. What happens when they get out and need to buy more?

 

[Baditude]

Se we are reading that hundreds of people have reported illness. A high percentage of them should be able to identify their sources. How many of those sources has been identified or questioned, if not arrested? It feels like they are protecting the drug dealers.

You expect them to roll over on their dealers? That's not how it works. What happens when they get out and need to buy more?

 

[sofarsogood]

You expect them to roll over on their dealers? That's not how it works. What happens when they get out and need to buy more?

The bad liquid has one source that is already known. As soon as that is disclosed the advice that everbody should stop vaping immediately will have a hollow ring if it doesn't already. To get ecigs banned while cigarettes remain for sale the same as always will take some outrageous lying.

 

[bombastinator]

You expect them to roll over on their dealers? That's not how it works. What happens when they get out and need to buy more?

Plus it can be really dangerous. Also remember these are kids. They’re likely more afraid of parental repercussion than they are of the law, or even their dealers.

I’m remembering an earlier post where someone broke open their JUUL exposing the guts and asked how to safely dispose of it. He was told, but the danger scared him so much he decided to throw it into the middle of the street endangering many others instead. “I might lose my phone for a week!” is worse than killing someone for some kids.

 

[Baditude]

The FDA orders vape juice to taste like fecal matter in light of youth vaping crisis

 

[AttyPops]

^^ Meanwhile NBC news just did a whole "thing" about vaping again, and mentioned the Juul thing/suit/orders, and not a damn word about green-stuff vapes being the actual problem.

Lester, you and the crew are slipping. Previous reports have been better.

 

[bombastinator]

^^ Meanwhile NBC news just did a whole "thing" about vaping again, and mentioned the Juul thing/suit/orders, and not a damn word about green-stuff vapes being the actual problem.

Lester, you and the crew are slipping. Previous reports have been better.

Tell them directly. There should be some sort of web site.

 

[bombastinator]

Saw this video and it made me think of this issue

 

[kross8]

Saw this video and it made me think of this issue

I love that channel! Been watching it for a few years. His Nicolas Cage video is funny

 

[AttyPops]

General Cannabis Discussion

Hell just froze over.
But better to deal with it directly than let people die stupidly I guess.

 

[Izan]

General Cannabis Discussion

Hell just froze over.

Almost, the classies are still FUBAR.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

General Cannabis Discussion

Hell just froze over.
But better to deal with it directly than let people die stupidly I guess.

 

[440BB]

I'm glad ECF opened this discussion up. They've been a resource to many in times of misinformation. In this crisis for the ecig community as well as the real risks for those cartridge users ECF will once again keep the facts available to more people.

During this negative onslaught ECF just became a better resource when we need more clear information. It's been hard to talk about the differences between our successful nicotine alternative and the "other" stuff. Cannabis. There, I said it!