Hi Nomdo, I saw Gerhards' but I thought I may as well try the LR cones at R80. I use an 801-510 on my indulgnce now for the cones, LR and Tank, it's a bit like vaping on a bicycle pump but I'm used to it and now don't have the stress of batteries., I'm still on my 2 18650's that I got a year ago...