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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    Yeah, well, I'm not inclined to go into it. I've tried repeatedly to explain why that is, and anyone who spends half a second thinking about my position should get it, but if people will insist on feeling entitled to things they are not, then the new answer is just "no." So, no. Ok?
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    My position on that has remained consistent since years before I ever smoked, through-out the time I did, once I stopped, and it still is now in my on-again-off-again state. It is not a matter trying to justify my, or anyone else's smoking. No one needs any justification for the things they do...
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    I never was, that's the thing. All that's changed is my personal action, not my stance. My stance has always been that we don't know anything. I simply spoke out about the antagonistic attitude, and the proclamations of things way beyond what we currently know. I still am. Nothin's changed.
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    That's the thing. Everyone keeps assuming I know something they don't. That isn't the case. There is simply no information available. I stopped because I don't know what the threshold for symptoms is. Chemically, there are other flavors similar to it - just more or this, less of that, etc. They...
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    No, there really aren't all kinds of factors. If you read my description, the reaction was pin-pointed to one flavor, within specific periods both of exposure and of duration of symptoms. It doesn't get any less random than that. Even if the environment had some sort of impact on the symptoms...
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    Indeed. And I think that is really all we can base vaping/not vaping on at this point in time. Our own situations, and what that hidden board could potentially mean for us. If I was much older with more risk from smoking? I might just get on with vaping, though I may also try to do it in such a...
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    It isn't a contradiction. I know vaping was the problem (i.e. the cause of my symptoms). What I don't know is how big of a problem that is. Well, that was never *my* concern when a non-smoker would come here, and get universal advice (including from me) not to vape. I held to that even at the...
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    But why? Especially if you know that vaping is indeed the problem? And especially since we don't know if vaping is truly better? There are several theoretical ways in which vaping could be worse. We just don't know. What we do know with smoking is that damage from it has a pretty long, slow...
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    I think the tone of these conversations has de-escalated considerably in the past 6 months. Perhaps not - I admit I haven't been watching the forums as closely as I used to. But I've always hung out in the "shades of gray" in terms of this whole debate. I just shifted from one gray to another...
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    I really think always pointing to the psychological invention of symptoms is dangerous this early in the history of e-cigarettes. It is true that it may be the case for some people, but we also have no idea what the long-term effects of vaping are, and sometimes it is DEFINITELY vaping related...
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    MistressNomad made a couple great videos,,, but now they are gone. wtf

    PM sent... I did set my videos to private. They should not work unless a link is provided specifically by me, to a logged in YouTube member. I have not sent anyone the links. If there is still a working link I would like to know about it. Popeye79 is right. There are plenty of other, sometimes...
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    Cheers. I'm 22 weird years old. It feels a lot like 21.

    Cheers. I'm 22 weird years old. It feels a lot like 21.
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    Rate the Avatar above you

    +5 for faded pictures. I just happen to like that kinda stuff.
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    Just Wondering About MistressNomad

    Hello, everyone. No, I am no longer at FSUSA. Of course, I wish David and Pam the best. I am moving back to Minnesota and pursuing my education. I feel enthusiastic about doing so for the first time since I left high school. I knew it would happen eventually - apparently something I did down...
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    Numb, tingly hands, funny electric shock feeling when you bend your head to your chest?

    I've been gone a while, but I think I'd like to chime in with you ladies and where you're at. Forgive my lack of context. Unfortunately I am not in a position to provide much context, so it is what it is. But I've now joined you, and stopped vaping. I wasn't noticing any effect on my neurology...
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    Making free signatures and banners. Make a request if interested.

    Thank you jive! You're the best. :)
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    the quit zits

    You're looking for Sodium Borate in the ingredients. But, failing that, you can make your own. I may be doing this from now on (I like making my own stuff). Make Your Own Cold cream
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    Making free signatures and banners. Make a request if interested.

    Hey jive, wondering if you ever played around with mine more (your rough draft is still way better than anything I could do, ha ha)? Glad to hear you're doing better!
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    the quit zits

    Tried the Ponds trick. Can't say I've seen any marked change in my acne, but it has made my skin feel a lot less angry and moved the acne I do have closer to the surface, as described earlier. I may keep doing it just because my skin seems to like it. Hmmm... Easy to make your own too.
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    Get To Know Your Fellow Junkie Game

    True. Except change "seldom" to "never." I absolutely loathe the way that stuff smells. All of it. I've never run into a cologne or perfume I could tolerate. Next person is currently vaping something candy-flavored.