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Ordered mine on the day they were released, loving it so far. Dark brown is darker than I expected but it doesn't affect its performance.

I'm waiting on the Therion 133, any idea when they'll be available?

Hi FranC! My ADV is Hangsens Indian 5%, Jamaican Rum 2-3% and a touch of AP. I've been vaping the same basic recipe for the past 18 months with a few variations, Highway, RY1 and once in a while a very small amount of coconut. The tobaccos I use are Hangsens and the Jamaican Rum is from...

Question: Is there a progression of symptoms when you add too much flavor? I know adding too much can have 2 distinct results, no flavor at all or a strong perfume taste. When I mix the Indian at 5% and above, I get a very bitter taste and very little other flavor but at 4% there is a...

I agree about RTS. Their customer service surprised me. I had several communications them over this while I had another in-route from BullCity, they even offerred another flavor of my choice but I declined since it wasn't their problem. The BullCity receipt confirmed that it wasn't a RTS...

Well, I'm in the middle of testing the base right now. PG is good, VG is good. I made a small sample of 9mg nic and there is a very slight bitter/pepper taste to it, but not at all like what I'm trouble shooting. Thanks for the brain tickler Danny. When trouble shooting, it is always best...

Danny, I haven't done any taste tests but I did smell the nic, PG and VG and everything smells 'normal' to me. If the .5% mixes don't fix it, I'll look into the other ingredients. The reason I'm gonna try it at such a drastic reduced % is because I recall someone in the Hangsens thread saying...

No. The smell of the concentrate is so far off of what I normally get I didnt'/don't suspect any other ingredient. I'm gonna do up some test bottles starting at .5% and increase by .5% up to 3% and see what I get.

Yep. :D I add AP to all my tobaccos. Luv that stuff. Does the marshmallow add any taste to the liquid?

Hm, I'll add that to my next order. I'm gonna try the Indian at a reduced %, about 2% this time around. I've noticed that I can't even taste the rum, where before it was very prevalent so I'm thinking the strength of the tobacco flavoring is much stronger than before and could be killing the...

It's Hangsen's Indian. The first batch was from RTS so I ordered another batch from BullCity. I'm beginning to think it's just a stronger concentrate than previous batches because it's stronger and darker than before so I'm gonna mix up some up in the 1% range and let it steep. I think it's...

Yeah, dropped it from 7 to 4 and letting it steep. I mixed it up a few days ago and have been putting it through the US cleaner. I tried a few drips today, but it's still pretty bad.

Hey all, I've run into a problem with my ADV. I use Indian tobacco with a bit of jamaican rum, AP and saline but the last batch of Indian I received is much more bitter than previous batches. It's so bitter in fact that it's barely vapable with my original recipe. What can I add to reduce...

I don't see an option to buy 50ml bottles...what am I missing?

Oh boy...does BullCity rebottle their juice?

Hey all, I'm looking for a tobacco that is close to Indian Tobacco. My last order from RTS didn't taste anything like the Indian I'm used to, and the order of Indian from BullCity tastes off as well. Is it possible that the latest lot # from Hangsens is different than usual? It's not just my...

Does anyone know if RTS has changed their Indian recipe at all? I know they're supposedly just repackaging into larger containers but I received a 30 ml bottle of it last week and it isn't anything close to what I've received in the past. This stuff is darker and has a hint of pipe tobacco...

Thank you very much!

Anyone know where I can get 30ml size of HS Indian flavoring? RTS just screwed up my second order in 2 weeks so I'm looking for another supplier. Tnx!

YIKES! Been out of the loop too long I guess. :D I mixed the RY1 at 5% with 2% Jamaican Rum and .5% AP. It's smoothed out a bit but it's still reminiscent of prunes It could be that it's a bit too strong at 5% but I'm gonna try it w/o any additives and see what it tastes like.