0% nic juice with throat hit
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Hi, jonqrandom . . . Welcome to the ECF boards.
I have read that some add a tiny bit vinegar to get the TH.
I have read that some add a tiny bit vinegar to get the TH.
i might have to give that a try - i know some people swear by vodka or similar and others don't seem to get anything from it.
yeah, i think BiteXtra contains capsicum, and also (probably white) pepper, garlic (or something of the ilk) and menthol - you can't usually taste them but you get little hints of them every so often - hits your throat pretty well, though
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i'm gonna have to get into mixing my own juice, just another thing to learn on top of hardware safety and construction lol!
haha - yeah, just having moar PG ain't gonna cut it i used to smoke unfiltered roll-ups, so that's my baseline for TH. like i said, i'm already vaping a mix that appears to contain capsicum (basically chilli pepper essence), white pepper, garlic and menthol 
i used to smoke unfiltered roll-ups, so that's my baseline for TH. like i said, i'm already vaping a mix that appears to contain capsicum (basically chilli pepper essence), white pepper, garlic and menthol Higher PG, Capsicum or Cinnamon infusions will give you the harshness you're after.
If you want a throat hit with 0 nic your blend needs to be higher PG than VG.
PG will also give you better flavor vs VG will produce more vapor but is really only noticeable on a dripper.
PG will also give you better flavor vs VG will produce more vapor but is really only noticeable on a dripper.
I find that recipes containing food dye give a heavier throat hit than non-dyed recipes. I think the dyes dull the flavor of the ejuice a little.
hmmm... i wonder what the safety aspects of vaping food colourants are. i know they're "food safe" - like tartrazine and sunset yellow... 
and obviously they're heated in the preperation of the food, but i doubt they've been tested either mixed with PG and VG or for inhalation with a vape - not that much has, of course.
still, it strikes me as these are the kind of chemicals that sometimes require respiratory precautions to work with in a manufacturing environment, so i think i'll not be adding them into my juice.
and obviously they're heated in the preperation of the food, but i doubt they've been tested either mixed with PG and VG or for inhalation with a vape - not that much has, of course. still, it strikes me as these are the kind of chemicals that sometimes require respiratory precautions to work with in a manufacturing environment, so i think i'll not be adding them into my juice.
also, yes, i do see all the "use moar PG" messages, that alone would not cut it for me - like i said, i smoked UNfiltered rollups for years (and years. and years).
the juice i'm currently using already seems to contain many of the other things mentioned in this thread, and works pretty well even at a mere 59% PG - it's not the same as the TH from vaping nic, but it hits about as hard as mid-strength nic
i'll check on the (relative) safety of vodka (or maybe brandy, i'd guess that would give more TH than vodka) and vinegar, and give those and cinnamon a shot in the future.
the juice i'm currently using already seems to contain many of the other things mentioned in this thread, and works pretty well even at a mere 59% PG - it's not the same as the TH from vaping nic, but it hits about as hard as mid-strength nic
i'll check on the (relative) safety of vodka (or maybe brandy, i'd guess that would give more TH than vodka) and vinegar, and give those and cinnamon a shot in the future.
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