100% VG is always killing/flooding my cartos

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Anyone else have this issue? I can make a carto last up to 3 weeks with a 70/30 pg/vg mix but 100% vg kills my carto within a day. It heats it up way too hot, floods it, then it's only a matter of time before it needs to be replaced. It's too bad because I love the taste of VG. I can't stand anything besides cartomizers, though.
 

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Hmm.

I'm guessing here....

I think the thicker VG is actually not flooding it...it's starving it. And the thinner mix wicks better. So the 100% VG starved carto is heating up too much, then the coil breaks. Then there's no coil working at all, so it floods. Also, maybe, drawing on the starved carto is drawing stuff into the air path and not into the coil fast enough. That kind of thing. Betting it's starved. But need more info: It might help to state the particular carto.

Also, try thinning the 100% VG with a drop or two of water (use a small test bottle and one drop). Or vodka.
 

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Anyone else have this issue? I can make a carto last up to 3 weeks with a 70/30 pg/vg mix but 100% vg kills my carto within a day. It heats it up way too hot, floods it, then it's only a matter of time before it needs to be replaced. It's too bad because I love the taste of VG. I can't stand anything besides cartomizers, though.

You could always try dripping attys, but sometimes it is hard for carto users to make the switch because of the difference in vaping ritual.
 

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You can try diluting your juice, perhaps up to 20%, with water. Shouldn't affect the flavor. Depending upon the vendor where you purchase your juices, you can ask in the comment section to use a carto-friendly base.

Aside from that, you may need to make a change in your juice delivery device. I'd recommend a bottom feeding box mod. Probably a different form factor than you are used to, but many here on ECF love them for the purest flavor production. Think drip atty + tank. No wicking material to get in the way of pure flavor. One of the cheaper ones is the VMod by Vampage.

Vampage.jpg Vampage VMod alongside an eGo for size comparison.
 
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You can try diluting your juice, perhaps up to 20%, with water. Shouldn't affect the flavor. Depending upon the vendor where you purchase your juices, you can ask in the comment section to use a carto-friendly base.

Aside from that, you may need to make a change in your juice delivery device. I'd recommend a bottom feeding box mod. Probably a different form factor than you are used to, but many here on ECF love them for the purest flavor production. One of the cheaper ones is the VMod by Vampage.

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"Cheaper" it is in price, but man do those things work great!
 

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not sure I understand how a box mod would help. That uses cartomizers too doesn't it? I don't know about it being starved. It gets so hot it seems to suck the juice up like a straw and it leaks out of the bottom if I don't move it up to cover the hole in the cartomizer up while I vape up the flooded carto.

I think it's really that it's getting so hot with vg, I don't know why. I tend to vape at a high voltage/wattage on a low resistance cartomizer. I like the big throat hits.

I like the idea about water I'm going to try that.
 

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not sure I understand how a box mod would help. That uses cartomizers too doesn't it? I don't know about it being starved. It gets so hot it seems to suck the juice up like a straw and it leaks out of the bottom if I don't move it up to cover the hole in the cartomizer up while I vape up the flooded carto.

I think it's really that it's getting so hot with vg, I don't know why. I tend to vape at a high voltage/wattage on a low resistance cartomizer. I like the big throat hits.

I like the idea about water I'm going to try that.
You're right, you don't understand....yet. You can use a cartomizer on the box mods, but where they truly shine is by using a drip atomizer. Inside the mod itself is the battery housing and a juice reservoir (or tank). The mod's casing has an opening to be able to touch the juice tank, and by pressing your finger on the tank this causes a certain amount of juice to be delivered to the deliver device.

Juice is delivered to an atomizer without the need for string wicks or pollyfill wicking material...just straight juice to the heating coil. All the benefits of dripping and using a tank without the need to drip more juice every few vapes like the usual ritual of dripping. Can be used while driving, also a no-no when using a regular drip atomizer.

Do yourself a favor and watch a You Tube video on box mods. I picked this one because it happened to be on the VMod from Vampage. There may be better ones to view.

 
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In an ideal/theoretical world where a coil was submerged in the e-juice and not too over-powered, you could vape continuously. The phase change from liquid, to vapor takes heat away from the coil. Sure it's a balance. But the point is you can't over-heat the coil unless you:

A) Have a dry/starved coil
B) shove too many watts at it.

So you're doing one of the two. Since you said 70/30 mix works, and 100% VG doesn't...I assumed it's mostly A.

However, to be fair, I'm surprised you didn't get some burnt flavor too. So maybe it's B. Turn it down. Change coil types. Etc.
 
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In an ideal/theoretical world where a coil was submerged in the e-juice and not too over-powered, you could vape continuously. The phase change from liquid, to vapor takes heat away from the coil. Sure it's a balance. But the point is you can't over-heat the coil unless you:

A) Have a dry/starved coil
B) shove too many watts at it.

So you're doing one of the two. Since you said 70/30 mix works, and 100% VG doesn't...I assumed it's mostly A.

However, to be fair, I'm surprised you didn't get some burnt flavor too. So maybe it's B. Turn it down. Change coil types. Etc.

Pay attention to a man with a name like "AttyPops!" on a subject like this. LOL
 
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