1st time Vaping today. Not what I expected. Need opinions please.

[finnman1]

I am 28. I've been smoking Marlboro Reds mainly since I was 15. 13 years now. Back when I was a teenager, when cigs were in short supply, we'd raid our parents' ashtray and smoke butts. Not just butts, but we took the filter out and smoked it raw.

Everybody knows that a cig's potency gets higher as you continue to smoke it. The nicotine sticks to the rest of it, and by the time you are smoking the ...., its full of nicotine and tar. Now. Imagine smoking only that. It's super harsh. As a kid, its all we had, so we smoked it like that. 2 butts would give you enough nic comparable to a full cigarette.

Today, I get my Vamo2, a ce4 clearo, a smaller 1mL clear and some juice from Vapor Alley. Sweet Tart It is 75pg/25vg in 24mg. I got some Mt Dew, some Sweet Tart, n some Blackberry. The clearo is 2.8Ohms and i'm running it between 3.8 and 5.4v.. A fixed 3.7 on my other 18350 mod also.


There's two potential issues, i'd like to address.

#1. Imagine how strong that cig .... would be with no filter, and multiply that strength by two, and you now know what I feel like every time I take a puff from my ecig. It is super coarse on my throat and it doesn't "hurt" when I inhale, but it's WAYY stronger than my Marlboro Reds. (smoked a few this morning) What gives? It's not a pleasurable experience lol It's almost choking me out. I've ran about 1mL juice thru the one carto so far. The Mt Dew isn't as bad, but almost.

#2. I was told that since vaping is not smoke, it's just water vapor, that the "smoke" disappears after a few seconds after you blow it out. This is not happening for me. My apartment looks like I turned on a fog machine. If you remember how cig smoke would sort of linger and dissapate; well, this doesn't. It's like a cloud and it doesnt go away lol.. Is this normal? I thought 25% vg would cut some of the smoke (which supposedly disappears right away anyways)

 

[teggykid952]

I'm vaping right now with Blu's until my setup comes in, but I was at a friend's and I noticed how it lingered as well. Interested to see what explanations will pop up

 

[HyperRealist]

I thought you weren't supposed to be able to smell it either. Everybody in my house says they can smell it. They say it smells good.

 

[ridethespiral]

#1 maybe try a juice with less nicotine?

#2 many fog machines use PG to create their fog, so that's probably why you're fogging up the room. It doesn't necessarily disperse very fast.

Sorry I'm brand new here and I'm sure someone will have a better answer than me but that's my $0.02

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[onry]

do you have your vamo set on means or rms? that could make a big difference in the hit.
check the vamo thread for info on that.
if you fog the room up it will take a lil longer for the vapor to dissipate also.ere you chain vaping
or waiting between vapes? it may make a difference depending on how large your room is

you also my need to reduce you PG my wife has issues with the PG and more VG and less PG
is better for her it seems the PG gives her to much throat hit

 

[finnman1]

Both calculation modes have the same effect. I have another 350 mod and it tastes the same as well at fixed 3.7v. Using 2 diff clearos also.

No, i'm not chain vaping. The 24mg is enough for 3 hits per hour lol. When I took my very first hit, I noticed the cloud of vapor didnt disappear so I watched it for about a good minute. Amazing how air tight my apartment is. It didn't go anywhere. Kinda cool how it doesnt float to the ceiling like analogs.

Vets? Opinions/thoughts?

 

[onry]

the mean will give you a much hotter vape from what i was reading in the vamo forum
since it is not an accurate power setting rms= accurate voltage setting. you also might try a different
head on your clearo maybe a lower ohm one or try reducing your voltage a little.
i dont own a vamo so im just shooting in the dark

check here for more help http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/

 

[tomaKBRN]

Well the TH should be less with less nic on the juice, shorter draws and a cooler setting (less voltage)
maybe you can dilute it with some PG or VG

for the lingering vapor, I believe that the more PG the juice has the longer it lingers, if you don't breathe it in it seems lo linger longer and I believe that this is because there is some nic in the vapor exhaled and thus lingers longer, try using a more Viscous Goop and less nic and breathing you vapor so you get more satisfied maybe with less puffs.
Also e-cigs may be "less-hash" than stinkys but they are harsh in a different way and even experienced smokers will have a 1-3-week adaptation period for the different TH and delivery methods of nic

Hope this helped, GL

 

[The Ocelot]

This may sound really dumb, but read the reviews: Ashtray

 

[440BB]

I inhaled on an ecig when I started just like a cigarette. It was harsh until I learned that the best way to use an ecig is to puff it into your mouth much like a cigar or pipe, then inhale after you are done drawing it in. Maybe that's what is happening to you too. The nicotine is mainly absorbed by your mouth tissues so inhaling is optional. It's also important to drink more water when you begin vaping as it is a little dehydrating. Hope you find a more comfortable way to vape soon!

 

[mmikee]

I know that when I first tried ecigs, they made cough big time and were the same as you are describing.. After about a week I wasnt coughing anymore. My brother smokes 2 pad, and when I let him try he coughed his head off. He described it exactly like you and me. I turned the voltage way down and let him try again, and it was better. Im not sure why vapor made us cough and was seemingly so much stronger/harsher than smoke, but it was at first.
Now, I have to take a massive drag everytime I vape.

 

[finnman1]

Like I said, at 2.8Ohms, Ive tried it between 3.8v all the way to 5.4 when it started 'burning.' I don't think its too hot. With the 1mL clearo, its a 1.8Ohm and I tried 3.0v to 4.2v when it started to 'Burn'. All the same "throat hit". It's not even a throat hit. Its a throat punch with glass embedded leather gloves on.

Nono, I'm puffing like a cigar then inhaling. Just like analogs. Only back when I smoked weed was when I inhaled WHILE I was drawing the smoke.

 

[MMarie]

(Nevermind, you said you tried it in both calculation modes)

 

[Johnnie Price]

Don't use a lower ohm, that'll give you an even harder hit.

More than likely it's the nic strength and/or the PG. I've only been vaping seriously for a few months, but I had the same harsh hits when using 2.4% nicotine. Once I stepped down to 1.8% it smoothed out quite a bit.

Also, you could try lowering your voltage. Although it's recommended to use that ohms at a higher voltage, it should still fire just fine a little lower. When I did use my VV battery, I actually preferred my menthol at around 3.5-3.6 volts with a 3.0 ohm atomizer. Your flavor will diminish a bit and it will be a cooler vape, but it may help reduce the harshness as well.

You may want to get some juice at a lower strength. Get the same flavors and mix them so you're not just throwing out your higher level juice. Also, even though I hated the harshness, I needed the higher dosage at first. I tried stepping down in strength too early and nearly wound up smoking full time again.

Good luck!

 

[onry]

Like I said, at 2.8Ohms, Ive tried it between 3.8v all the way to 5.4 when it started 'burning.' I don't think its too hot. With the 1mL clearo, its a 1.8Ohm and I tried 3.0v to 4.2v when it started to 'Burn'. All the same "throat hit". It's not even a throat hit. Its a throat punch with glass embedded leather gloves on.

Nono, I'm puffing like a cigar then inhaling. Just like analogs. Only back when I smoked weed was when I inhaled WHILE I was drawing the smoke.

that is about how my wife described it when she tries to vape my juice i order her 20/80 pg/vg and now she has an easier time
vaping just gotta find her nic level now so she can quit smoking the stinkies all together

 

[finnman1]

I appreciate everyone's responses. Johnny Prince, kudos for the mixing juices idea. I have some stuff in the mail from myfreedomsmokes. nic/pg/vg/flavor/syringes, etc..

I have tried both methods of power calculation while using a wide voltage range on both Clearos. Both 2.8 and 1.8.

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[bols2DaWall]

Try a lower nic level and maybe a 50/50 mix , don't forget steeping will mellow out a lot of juices too & try drawing on you PV a little slower . the ol process of elimination . Good luck .

 

[onry]

I appreciate everyone's responses. I have tried both methods of power calculation while using a wide voltage range on both Clearos. Both 2.8 and 1.8

if changing settings on your vamo doesnt help and your 350 gives you the same vape
then it is definitely a mixture of your juice in my opinion.

but you know what they say about opinions right?

 

[kariM]

Hi, I am pretty new to this too. I had a similar problem when I first started at 18mg. I was using a 1.80 oHm Stardust on an eGO Twist and I had to pretty much use it at 3.2 - and not over 3.4. The juice I had was 70pg/30vg. I just figured the nic was to high. So I ordered some 15mg at 60vg/40pg and some 100% VG.

By the time I got the order in and the juice it was over a week later and I was not having near as much a problem with the 18mg. Howver, I started using the new juice and then tried the 18mg when I was thinking about smoking a cigarette. I could now take it up to 3.6 and handle it.

For me I think it was actually just getting used to the vapor. I still can't handle having the voltage much higher than 3.8 with a 2.4 oHm Vivi Nova. So I think for me I just need a cooler vapor. I have also tried the Kanger T3 and it is working pretty good for me too. Good luck I hope you either get used to it or figure out a better solution.

 

[billo]

I agree with 440BB.

One guy I know coughs every time he tries my E cigarette, and he smokes over a pack a day. I couldn't figure out why.

The "secret" is to hold it on your mouth first, THEN inhale.

I tried continuously inhaling and I coughed too ! I had no idea that I was inhaling differently with the E cig.