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Wrapping 20 gauge isn't hard at all lol I did a twisted 20 gauge single coil at .15 ohms . My vape shop said I can run .08 on my tug but not gonna tKe the chance tho gonna go get some 22 gauge and go for .20 build I just got my tug box 3 days ago I had a tug mech befor the box the splatter one

Pick up some extra batteries while you are there. Even if you get it right, you ARE going to waste a lot of power heating the coil.
26ga. Dual coils Rip in my Dark Horse at .28ohm No need for 20ga-22ga other than bragging rights.
Why brag you can walk the yellow line when the sidewalk is just as fast and a lot safer?
 

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Pick up some extra batteries while you are there. Even if you get it right, you ARE going to waste a lot of power heating the coil.
26ga. Dual coils Rip in my Dark Horse at .28ohm No need for 20ga-22ga other than bragging rights.
Why brag you can walk the yellow line when the sidewalk is just as fast and a lot safer?
Lol yeah ur right I just Always thought u had to go 20-22 gauge to get smoke I never learned the part of batterie safety and how u can go sAfer and prolly get the joy and smoke I'm looking for thanks guys I will def take All ur advice it was all good and helpful . Idk why my local shop is saying I can go as low as .08 on my tug box ....????? R they dumb ? Serious question whT do u think ? I feel like their trying to kill me and the one guy even showed me his own it was .09 on his setup on one box . They were telling me do a 5 wrap on 20 gauge kanthal on my box
 
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I have one more question . Once I learn everything I need to kno can't I build my own box mod ? Is it possible to build one with like 4 batteries ? Seen things online with 4x batterie holder ? I like using my hands and building stuff and would like to do research and try that as my next project in vaping
You surely can. A 4-battery mod will be large and heavy, but it will work just fine. Hhhmmm... if I were going to do it, I think I'd go for a parallel-series box, to make 8.4v at 40 amps maximums. You're going to want to make it an electro-mech, that is switch it with quad parallel mosfets (or dual parallel if it's the series-parallel box I mentioned). It's still gonna be pretty insane to build that low, though. That's just a quiet whisper from a hard short. You really, really don't want to go there, I promise you.
 

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Lol yeah ur right I just Always thought u had to go 20-22 gauge to get smoke I never learned the part of batterie safety and how u can go sAfer and prolly get the joy and smoke I'm looking for thanks guys I will def take All ur advice it was all good and helpful . Idk why my local shop is saying I can go as low as .08 on my tug box ....????? R they dumb ? Serious question whT do u think ? I feel like their trying to kill me and the one guy even showed me his own it was .09 on his setup on one box . They were telling me do a 5 wrap on 20 gauge kanthal on my box
Rather than dumb, more like ignorant and lazy. It is entirely possible they simply don't know how close they come to disaster with foolish builds like that. And I have to tell you, getting a good mech build is really more art than science. You have to build and build and build again until you get one where you want it, because with a mech the watts applied to the coil are controlled by the coil build. It's the only thing you can do to influence what the mod is doing, and it is very finicky. That's why regulated mods are so much easier and more versatile to work with. You can build just about any old thing and just *tell* the machine what watts to put on it. This doesn't work on a mech. You have to tweak it. In fact, you're more likely to get your best clouds if you stay away from maximum low builds because of the voltage drop issue. Not super high either, it still takes low builds for a lot of watts on a mech. What I am saying is there's a point of diminishing returns. Once you get so low, going lower increases danger a lot and cloud not much at all because you wast the extra watts trying to heat the wire instead of the juice. Honestly, I get solid good cloud-- not contest winners, but good-- at .5-.7 on just one battery. No fancy left handed Clapton monkey zippers, either. Just regular old slick wire coils.
 

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Thanks suprtrkr and everyone , and Ya I can never find a satifying coil I always switch it lol found few tha I like . Was using 4 wrap quad coils . But was to low cuz when I put it on my mech I could feel the batterie heating up through the mech and don't think that's safe at all . On my box don't feel the heat but prolly not safe either so trying to take the advice and not try go as low as I thought but when I go above .30 ohms it seems like it takes 5 mins to heAt the coil up unless I'm doing something wrong
 
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Thanks suprtrkr and everyone , and Ya I can never find a satifying coil I always switch it lol found few tha I like . Was using 4 wrap quad coils . But was to low cuz when I put it on my mech I could feel the batterie heating up through the mech and don't think that's safe at all . On my box don't feel the heat but prolly not safe either so trying to take the advice and not try go as low as I thought but when I go above .30 ohms it seems like it takes 5 mins to heAt the coil up unless I'm doing something wrong
You're right on ramp-up time...a higher gauge thinner wire will fix that problem. At 20g there's just so much wire to get higher ohms that's why it takes so long to heat
 
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Idk why my local shop is saying I can go as low as .08 on my tug box ....????? R they dumb ? Serious question whT do u think ? I feel like their trying to kill me and the one guy even showed me his own it was .09 on his setup on one box .
It's either ignorance or arrogance.

I worked in a vape shop in 2014. We had a couple of co-workers who were making 0.1 ohm builds for personal use. I tried to tell them that building that low was beyond the specs of any battery, but they didn't care. Luckily, the shop owner/manager strictly prohibited any of us from building anything lower than 1.0 ohms for customers because of potential liability issues.
 

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Prolly comen sence but didn't kno cuz I always used 20-22 but one last question why do people use 20-22 gauge and tell me do 6 wraps of 20 when I can be safer and do just as good with higher gauge .. Confused
Again, either ignorance or arrogance. Not understanding Ohm's Law or battery specifications. "I've always done it this way and nothing bad has happened yet."

You can redline your car engine's RPM's for months at a time, but eventually that engine is going to blow by running it above spec continuously. The difference is, your engine isn't going to blow up in your face like a mod could.
 

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I've always done it this way and nothing bad has happened yet."

You can redline your car engine's RPM's for months at a time, but eventually that engine is going to blow by running it above spec continuously. The difference is, your engine

True and best thing I've heard lol great understanding to of how u put that
 

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Thanks suprtrkr and everyone , and Ya I can never find a satifying coil I always switch it lol found few tha I like . Was using 4 wrap quad coils . But was to low cuz when I put it on my mech I could feel the batterie heating up through the mech and don't think that's safe at all . On my box don't feel the heat but prolly not safe either so trying to take the advice and not try go as low as I thought but when I go above .30 ohms it seems like it takes 5 mins to heAt the coil up unless I'm doing something wrong
Your problem with ramp up is you're trying to build too much coil on not enough battery. Get some 30 or 32 ga Kanthal and twist up some .4s or .5s. That will heat very quickly and make more vapor than you can get out of quads on a one battery mod. With a two-battery box... maybe. It's still kinda thin.
 
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