48mg back in stock

[Princessdee]

When you get your stuff in would you be willing to make me some 36mg chai tea? (Pg only. VG makes me very sick)

I will also be wanting 48 to mix up my own stuff.

Thanks for carrying what we need. ~ XO ~ P

 

[wegster]

Just a quick note, seems he's out of town at the moment, but got my 48mg almost instantly.

Any hopes of seeing 48mg offering in larger quantities/bulk?

 

[trintek]

sorry, not so much out of town as out of my mind i have been working on a few new extraction processes for my custom flavors as well as traditional methods to compare and see what works best. that mixed with talking to new labs, trying to work out a deal on both bases (pg and vg) for the 48, has kept me rather busy.

so.. in order...

princessdee:
i just received a new custom batch of bulk chai spice and black tea 2 days ago, after trying out 20+ mixes, i think i have one that will work well for vaping. as i type this i have a pound of the mix going through 4 different extraction processes. will be testing 2 of the batches within the next day or so to see how they turned out, the other two are cold extractions and will be a few days to a week before i know anything.

in order to keep the company going, my focus will be on custom liquids for the near future. mainly things that aren't offered elsewhere and extracts that other companies either don't offer or prove to be inferior when used for our purposes. i do have 2 new labs lined up for the 48mg, i am just waiting on samples so i can send them off for testing.

as far as strengths, as always, we are willing to mix custom flavors up to 40mg, but we will probably be dropping that to 36 in the near future. we will also be introducing a few custom kits aimed at the diy people again in the near future.

wegster:
one of the major reasons the site is down at the moment is that i am out of stock. i decided to take this time to recode a large portion of the backend. what this means in the long run:

no more coupons unless we have stock we need cleared out.
ecf members will receive a 5% discount as long as the username is entered during sign up and i am notified prior to you ordering (so that i can activate it). anyone with a current account that has entered their ecf username will be receiving the discount from now on. to check if your ecf username is input, go to the my account settings. it should have a space for it in there.

bulk discounts and no order maximums.
if we have 1000ml in stock and you want 250ml, you will receive your 5% discount + the bulk discount. we are still working on the discount details and such.

so yes, in the near future, you will be able to buy in larger quantities and receive a discount for doing so.

hope this covers everything, i will try to keep up with new posts in between recoding the backend and meeting with people.

thanks,
trin

 

[Lucacri]

Trintek, when will you have in stock some unflavored (or Mar-bro preferably) 36mg? I need 250ml or even 500ml

 

[trintek]

unfortunately i am not sure when anything will be in stock at this point. everything (except working on extracts) has been put on hold until the new liquid samples show up for testing. i am hoping they will be in by next weekend.

 

[trintek]

welp, it was about time for an update. the 48 is back in stock in vg and pg bases. the lab i am using now only deals in bulk, so i am running a dual head programmable peristaltic pump (one tube for vg, one tube for pg) to handle the bottle fills.

shipping is still via priority mail, and is 5 bux for orders under 75, free for orders over $75. there will be a 1 day delay in me getting it out the door though, as i now have to handle the filling, labeling, and qc.

all ecf members that entered their nickname during signup receive 5% off all orders, new signups will have the discount applied automatically. the discount will show when you are checking out. if you do not see the discount, do not finalize your order, contact me first so that i may verify your account is receiving the 5% off.

trin

 

[wegster]

Hi,

I see your home page ay need an update, it says 'will be coming in, then tested,' assuming in stock means that's done?

I noticed the mention of 'won't disclose VG ingredients.' Does that mean a toxicology report will be available for the PG, then? Some have concerns RE: different sources of nicotine, such as lab grade not being suitable, etc...

Also, any plans for larger quantity purchases, or only by 15ml? (I did see discounts on multiple 15ml, but..larger sizes, etc?)

 

[gjrhine]

welp

Learn how to write credibly first.

 

[trintek]

gjrhine:
1) nobody has ever questioned my credibility, but there is a simple solution to that. don't buy from me.

2) people express themselves in different ways, i am from west texas... we use phrases like "y'all", "good eats", "y'hear", and "itch that spot".. I apologize if my use of "welp" instead of "well" confused you. But this is america, and when people spell things like flavour, colour, and honour without the necessary 'u'... lets just leave it at, i adapted, i'm sure you can as well.

wegster:
testing has been completed, and it is back in stock. we also test vaped both batches with the chai extract and the french vanilla no ill effects. test vaping was done with french vanilla cut to 36mg and chai at 18mg.

"won't disclose vg ingredients" is semi misleading, we will disclose that it consists of 3 ingredients, the two main ones being nicotine from plant extract and vegetable glycerine, the third one is non-toxic, non-conductive, and leaves no carbon deposits.

As far as toxicology reports go, we have our liquids tested for contaminants, toxins, and heavy metals. there is currently no lab test to differentiate between plant based and synthetic nicotine. if i am wrong, then please correct me. I have not been able to find any patents on the subject, nor have i found any labs that can test for nicotine source.

Quantity discounts. thats a bit tougher... I plan on offering discounts that exceed the current ones. the new lab can provide carts, small bottles, etc as they are one of a few companies that supply liquids targeted at e-cigs and extracts targeted at flavoring the liquids. For custom orders though, they only supply bulk packaging (ie 1 liter to 55 gallon drum). We use a cole parmer programmable peristaltic pump with dual heads and a flow meter to do all of the measuring and filling. While we sell in 15ml increments, the packaging is in the nearest bottle size. I have a production designer working on an automated system to handle measuring, filling, labeling, and sealing; but we are still putting a lot of time into developing new flavors, so that will probably be a little ways off.

hope that covers everything

trin

 

[grumpster]

You mentioned one liter bottles of e-liquid. Can you give a price on how much that would cost? I would be interested in a bottle of unflavored 48mg if the price was good.

Thanks.

 

[firhill]

gjrhine:
1) nobody has ever questioned my credibility, but there is a simple solution to that. don't buy from me.
trin

lol...someone pi$$ed in his cronlfakse

 

[wegster]

wegster:
testing has been completed, and it is back in stock. we also test vaped both batches with the chai extract and the french vanilla no ill effects. test vaping was done with french vanilla cut to 36mg and chai at 18mg.

"won't disclose vg ingredients" is semi misleading, we will disclose that it consists of 3 ingredients, the two main ones being nicotine from plant extract and vegetable glycerine, the third one is non-toxic, non-conductive, and leaves no carbon deposits.

As far as toxicology reports go, we have our liquids tested for contaminants, toxins, and heavy metals. there is currently no lab test to differentiate between plant based and synthetic nicotine. if i am wrong, then please correct me. I have not been able to find any patents on the subject, nor have i found any labs that can test for nicotine source.

Quantity discounts. thats a bit tougher... I plan on offering discounts that exceed the current ones. the new lab can provide carts, small bottles, etc as they are one of a few companies that supply liquids targeted at e-cigs and extracts targeted at flavoring the liquids. For custom orders though, they only supply bulk packaging (ie 1 liter to 55 gallon drum). We use a cole parmer programmable peristaltic pump with dual heads and a flow meter to do all of the measuring and filling. While we sell in 15ml increments, the packaging is in the nearest bottle size. I have a production designer working on an automated system to handle measuring, filling, labeling, and sealing; but we are still putting a lot of time into developing new flavors, so that will probably be a little ways off.

hope that covers everything

trin

Thanks for the info, trin.

I suppose it's really down to - 'I think we're all learning as we go.' I'm not so sure about caring about difference between synthetic or plant extracted nicotine, but have been told that 'lab grade nicotine' still contains carcinogens, which is generally 99% pure. I have yet to get any (or find any) additional data on this myself. So, really - it's part 'learning more,' and in making an educated decision. I'm just not so fond of 'dunno where it came from or what's in it' right now, which is why I was asking. So really, any additional info, especially on the 48mg (or are you sourcing all liquids from same lab now?) would be helpful.

Would definitely be interested in quantity purchasing, and will keep an eye open to see if that works out.

 

[MVP]

Nicotine does not CONTAIN carcinogens BUT " A new study indicates that the body can metabolize nicotine into products that the lungs subsequently may convert into a potent carcinogen."

Nicotine metabolism may spawn carcinogen. - Free Online Library

 

[trintek]

wegster:
currently everything is coming from one lab, their turn around on new samples is relatively quick, and shipping time is only slightly worse than the last one. nicotine source is from tobacco leaves. i am currently awaiting samples from a lab that extracts nicotine from non-tobacco sources.

i did manage to have a semi-local lab mix me up a very small batch of synthetic nicotine at 24mg concentration in a pg base to see if there was any noticeable difference in vaping. the only difference i noticed is it seemed harsher than the same concentration liquid using nic from natural sources. other than that, same amount of vapes to kill my cig craving. disposed of it after use as i didn't care for it.